The New Tone Thread

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Greg_L said:
Did he have an actual Mosrite? I know I've seen pics of him with a Univox Hi-Flier.
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I was listening to an interview with Butch Vig a few days ago, where he reminisced about the recording of Nevermind. Apparently Kurt got into a real black mood over some song they were recording and totally lost it, trashing his guitar. Butch quoted himself as saying "If you can find another left-handed Mosrite, then we can continue". I'm most likely paraphrasing.

I had no clue they were using a Mosrite! I assumed that they used his Pawn Shop Jag with the Super distortion in the bridge position.

I don't know if you can get this where you are but this is the programme.

BBC Radio 6 Music - Classic Albums of the 90s, Nirvana: Nevermind
 
I just googled some pics. Hard to tell, but it looks like a Mosrite Gospel model.

kurtwmosrite.jpg


It aint left haned, but if he smashed that guitar, I'm glad he's no longer with us.
 
Greg_L said:
I just googled some pics. Hard to tell, but it looks like a Mosrite Gospel model.

kurtwmosrite.jpg


It aint left haned, but if he smashed that guitar, I'm glad he's no longer with us.
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Yeah, it's pretty-well certain that he reduced it to matchwood, along with a few other bits of kit during the tantrum. :D
 
Greg_L said:
One more reason to hate that poser fuck.
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LOL. I love Nevermind. He gets a pass from me, purely for that album. I don't think he was a poser, frankly. The songs he wrote were killer by anybody's standards. He WAS fucked-up, though. :D
 
Bubba po said:
LOL. I love Nevermind. He gets a pass from me, purely for that album. I don't think he was a poser, frankly. The songs he wrote were killer by anybody's standards. He WAS fucked-up, though. :D
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I think he was a fraud. Always did. The whole I'm-famous-woe-is-me bit was contrived and gimmicky. I give them massive credit for helping to finish off that horrid 80s hair metal era though.
 
I liked some of Nirvana's songs, but as far as a guitarist, Jerry Cantrell (Alice In Chains) & Kim Thayil (Soundgarden) IMO blew him away...But, I get it, Nevermind is a classic album that help kill the 80's hair metal thing, & was the biggest thing since sliced bread in the 90's...Again, I like some of the songs they had...


The wall hangers Tadpui sent me arrived today (thanks dude!!!), so I spent part of my day re-arranging my room a little, & this is what I ended up with. I think it looks much better than before:



I still have a couple guitars (obviously, they're in the 2 cases...cheap Oscar Schmidt acoustic & the MIM H-S-S Strat) I've not hung up, but I'm not sure I'm going to...I've gotta say, the new SG looks awesome, I love it!!!

I ran out of monkey hooks for the panels near the floor, I'll grab some in a day or two, & replace those picture hanger things. A couple/few of 'em look like shit, but they're all I had, & didn't wanna move the little hooks on the panels, mainly because I'm lazy...:D.

Thanks again Tadupi!!!
 
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minerman said:
I liked some of Nirvana's songs, but as far as a guitarist, Jerry Cantrell (Alice In Chains) & Kim Thayil (Soundgarden) IMO blew him away...But, I get it, Nevermind is a classic album that help kill the 80's hair metal thing, & was the biggest thing since sliced bread in the 90's...Again, I like some of the songs they had...


The wall hangers Tadpui sent me arrived today (thanks dude!!!), so I spent part of my day re-arranging my room a little, & this is what I ended up with. I think it looks much better than before:



I still have a couple guitars (obviously, they're in the 2 cases...cheap Oscar Schmidt acoustic & the MIM H-S-S Strat) I've not hung up, but I'm not sure I'm going to...I've gotta say, the new SG looks awesome, I love it!!!

I ran out of monkey hooks for the panels near the floor, I'll grab some in a day or two, & replace those picture hanger things. A couple/few of 'em look like shit, but they're all I had, & didn't wanna move the little hooks on the panels, mainly because I'm lazy...:D.

Thanks again Tadupi!!!
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Freaking sweet, man :D

Glad you could put them to good use! It's looking like a guitarist lives there or something.

Sorry there was the one missing grommet...I'm sure that I saw it on the basement floor one day and was like "the fuck is this?" and tossed it. I'd already packed and sealed the hangers before it hit me that I had (almost) all of them in a random storage tray in my studio. I had to cut the package back open to toss them in :) I'd been fishing around them for years, pushing them aside while looking for hex wrenches, tuners, adapters, capos...they'd just become part of the scenery.
 
Bubba Po

That's a good tone. I liked it more once you got to the lead part, it seemed a little more saturated and more in that amp's comfort zone. I think that on that rhythm tone, you've gotta just hammer the guitar for all it's worth. Make those pickups really work. I just love the sound of low-to-mid output passive pickups being abused by way too much string vibration. That's why I play with heavier strings, and I play with a heavy touch. No finesse to most of what I do, I just love clobbering the strings and hearing the pickup deal with the fallout.

This thread is really turning into a Marshall love fest. I wasn't really hanging with it for the first couple hundred pages, so I don't know if it's always been that way. But damn, there are some fine Marshall tones living in the world. I wonder if in another 50 years, if the Gorilla practice amp tone will come back into fashion. If so, please consider my teenage years as a definite statement on the future of rock guitar.
 
Haha. Of course I don't use a Mosrite Gospel! They're like rocking horse shit!
 
Tadpui said:
Freaking sweet, man :D

Glad you could put them to good use! It's looking like a guitarist lives there or something.

Sorry there was the one missing grommet...I'm sure that I saw it on the basement floor one day and was like "the fuck is this?" and tossed it. I'd already packed and sealed the hangers before it hit me that I had (almost) all of them in a random storage tray in my studio. I had to cut the package back open to toss them in :) I'd been fishing around them for years, pushing them aside while looking for hex wrenches, tuners, adapters, capos...they'd just become part of the scenery.
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Thanks dude, I had 2 of those hangers lying here. I still have one left, & I'll probably stick the H-S-S strat on it, but it'll go here on the left of my desk (my back's toward the amp when I'm sitting here)...Fuck, I ran out of space...hahaha I was gonna take a pic of this side of the room, but I'd better wait until I straighten it up a little. It looks like a bomb went off, but I know where everything is...lol...

No worry about the missing grommet, I just really appreciate you sendin' 'em dude. Thanks!!!!


Tadpui said:
This thread is really turning into a Marshall love fest. I wasn't really hanging with it for the first couple hundred pages, so I don't know if it's always been that way. But damn, there are some fine Marshall tones living in the world. I wonder if in another 50 years, if the Gorilla practice amp tone will come back into fashion. If so, please consider my teenage years as a definite statement on the future of rock guitar.
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Well....this thread has always had lots of Marshall love, but even more so now that quite a few of us have Marshall amps. Even when I used the DSL-1H (which cost almost as much as my 100w version btw :eek:), I still didn't feel like it was a "real" Marshall because it just didn't really get there.

To me the bottom line is that good tone is good tone, no matter what you use or how you get there...

The thing I really like about this thread is everybody gets along, everybody contributes, & it's still going after all this time. If I'm right, this past Monday made 4 years for this thread, & there was another one before that for quite a while, that a lot of posts/info got transferred from to this one. So really, it's like a 5 year thread (maybe longer), which just amazes me...

It's hard to believe this thing is still going, but I hope it keeps on, because to me, this is the best thread on the 'net, period. There's enough info here for a newbie to learn pretty much anything they'd wanna know about recording guitar tones if the time is taken to really apply this stuff...
 
JDOD said:
Haha. Of course I don't use a Mosrite Gospel! They're like rocking horse shit!
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It's funny, y'know, but I always thought that Mosrites look a bit upside down when they're the right way up! :D

Going back to that vid, you don't have an HH Jag, do you?
 
minerman said:
The thing I really like about this thread is everybody gets along, everybody contributes, & it's still going after all this time. If I'm right, this past Monday made 4 years for this thread, & there was another one before that for quite a while, that a lot of posts/info got transferred from to this one. So really, it's like a 5 year thread (maybe longer), which just amazes me...

It's hard to believe this thing is still going, but I hope it keeps on, because to me, this is the best thread on the 'net, period. There's enough info here for a newbie to learn pretty much anything they'd wanna know about recording guitar tones if the time is taken to really apply this stuff...
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I was involved in the original thread back in the cave. It pretty much got me recording again after a bit of a hiatus when my Boss 8-track wouldn't export wav. files for some reason. My desire to contribute made me get my arse in gear and find out what was wrong. It turned out it needed a firmware update which I duly carried out and I've gone onwards and upwards from there!

All hail the tone thread!
 
Bubba po said:
It's funny, y'know, but I always thought that Mosrites look a bit upside down when they're the right way up! :D

Going back to that vid, you don't have an HH Jag, do you?
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No, but I have done a fair bit of research on the gear KC used. The HH Jag had a JB in the bridge. From Nevermind on he got nearly all of his guitars fitted with either a JB or a Super Distortion in the bridge. I've done a few comparisons between the two and I prefer a JB to a Super Dist although if I get my strat sorted and it sounds OK I'll probably try Super Distortion.

Nevermind was recorded mainly with the HH Jag, the old Mosrite (which you can actually hear him smashing to splinters at the end of the Nevermind album) and I think it was also an old Mosrite copy called a Univox.

I'm probably as much of a Nirvana nerd as Greg is a Ramones nerd. Not in a creapy self harming kinda way thouogh - I just think they wrote fucking great rock tunes and effectively put and end to permed blokes pouring themselves into leather trousers... at least for a while.

I'm working on a YouTube video to upload for you fuckers later on today!
 
Bubba po said:
All hail the tone thread!
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This thread just taught me how to record properly (although I still haven't mastered it) after years of just fucking about, trying to work it out for myself and getting pissed off with it.

Along with joining a band full of real musicians (like music degree types) last year it got me back into playing my guitar a lot just for the joy of playing too... so I promptly dropped 2 grand on a guitar!

Edit: Windows Movie Maker works fine for making a video of you playing but actually overlying the recorded audio as opposed to what your phone camera or whatever captures. You just insert your video file, insert your audio file then synch them up and mute the audio that your phone has captured. Simple. Its also free and probably already installed on your PC. Would be easier with a better package that shows the wave form of the audio in the editor so you could synch it up more quickly but its not that hard anyway.
 
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