He's UnderCover-Original

[DM60]

I have a lot going on here, the song isn't really going anywhere, just experimenting. I have the drums forward intentionally, but I wonder if it is working? No lyrics other than a chorus.

new version

first mix

Comments welcomed, but mainly using this as an approach to use on some future projects I have in my mind. Trying to see how it plays out.


Thanks

Made a few tweaks based on some feedback.

 

[Xcaliber]

Hmmm, could be my listening environment, but the drums didn't really sound forward to me. The instruments sounded a little "muffled" to me. I like the vocals though, the reverb helps them cut through the mix a bit.

 

[Retrohazard]

I don't know if it's important but I could not understand the speaking parts. I think if they were centered it would help. I understand why they are not but it's hard to concentrate on them when they are on just one side or the other for most of the song. It seems like it must be important to know what is being said since there are so many speaking parts.

I like the chorus though and the rest of the songs sounds pretty good too.

 

[DM60]

Hmmm, could be my listening environment, but the drums didn't really sound forward to me. The instruments sounded a little "muffled" to me. I like the vocals though, the reverb helps them cut through the mix a bit.

I agree, will revisit when I remix.

Thanks for the input.

I don't know if it's important but I could not understand the speaking parts. I think if they were centered it would help. I understand why they are not but it's hard to concentrate on them when they are on just one side or the other for most of the song. It seems like it must be important to know what is being said since there are so many speaking parts.

I like the chorus though and the rest of the songs sounds pretty good too.

Voices are not really that important. More to add as background. I threw them on the outside to see if they would cut through, but still be in the background. I am experimenting so I may put them closer to the middle the next round.

Thanks for the input.

 

[jimistone]

I think it's a cool song. I agree that the drums are too far back in the mix. I couldn't understand what was being said in the speaking parts either, but most songs I've ever heard that have spoken passages like this I can't make out what's being said. The spoken passages sound cool.
I enjoyed the song.

 

[DM60]

I think it's a cool song. I agree that the drums are too far back in the mix. I couldn't understand what was being said in the speaking parts either, but most songs I've ever heard that have spoken passages like this I can't make out what's being said. The spoken passages sound cool.
I enjoyed the song.

I am going to rework a few things. Drums to far back? Hum, I will see about bringing them forward a little more. I do want the the drums to be very present. The voices are from youtube clips, so I may need to do a little work on them to clear them up. But really they are just clips from various spy movies that I was using to give the song some feeling since I really didn't have any verse to go with this.

Thanks for the review.

 

[Robus]

Interesting song. Sounds like you have too many instruments competing in the midrange. They give the recording a congested sound and mask your vocals. I'd thin out the low midrange to give a clearer separation between guitars and bass, then work from there.

 

[Lt. Bob]

like it ..... interesting things you're trying here.

I look forward to hearing where you go with them.

 

[DM60]

Interesting song. Sounds like you have too many instruments competing in the midrange. They give the recording a congested sound and mask your vocals. I'd thin out the low midrange to give a clearer separation between guitars and bass, then work from there.

Yea, maybe. I really think the bass is killing me. I don't think I am mixing it right. Once I sort out the bass, I think I can get the others to play nice.

 

[Robus]

Try high passing your guitars and keyboard at around 200 Hz or thereabouts. That should bring the bass forward in the mix. Then you can turn the bass down if you think it is too loud. Once that's done, you can notch out some midrange space for your vocals. It sounded to me like the keyboards and guitars were all playing in the same octave, so a lot of competition going on there.

Just some amateur advice. Others on the forum are far more knowledgeable than me.

 

[DM60]

Try high passing your guitars and keyboard at around 200 Hz or thereabouts. That should bring the bass forward in the mix. Then you can turn the bass down if you think it is too loud. Once that's done, you can notch out some midrange space for your vocals. It sounded to me like the keyboards and guitars were all playing in the same octave, so a lot of competition going on there.

Just some amateur advice. Others on the forum are far more knowledgeable than me.

After some of the comments I've received, I will go back and revisit a few areas. I don't think it is the guitars as they are already cut below 200, I think the bass is the main culprit since it is very dominate.

Thanks for the input.

 

[DM60]

Updated based on some feedback. I updated the first post to reference new mix.

 

[Robus]

This sounds better than the first mix, from what I recall. The midrange is much clearer. I'm hearing a lot of mud from the low end. Might need to notch out some low frequencies there. Getting a clear and balanced bottom is something I'm struggling with in my own mixing too, so I know it's easier said than done. The drums are clearer but lacking in body. There's a thinness, like you would hear on old synth drum sounds from the 80s--mostly attack, with little resonance.

The main vocal line is catchy and works well against the backing track. You really should work this up to a full song.

 

[rayc]

The vocals seem to smear across the mix a bit too much. I like the spoken vox bit. the synth patch is a bit blah.
Sounds like this sis going somewhere.

 

[DM60]

This sounds better than the first mix, from what I recall. The midrange is much clearer. I'm hearing a lot of mud from the low end. Might need to notch out some low frequencies there. Getting a clear and balanced bottom is something I'm struggling with in my own mixing too, so I know it's easier said than done. The drums are clearer but lacking in body. There's a thinness, like you would hear on old synth drum sounds from the 80s--mostly attack, with little resonance.

The main vocal line is catchy and works well against the backing track. You really should work this up to a full song.

Thanks for the feedback. I've been working on getting that area (lower part) improved. That is a pretty hard area to get right, but makes the difference in mixes. I will be looking this over in the next few days to see if ai can't get more bottom end snap.

The vocals seem to smear across the mix a bit too much. I like the spoken vox bit. the synth patch is a bit blah.
Sounds like this sis going somewhere.

I was going for wide on the chorus, I have three tracks two panned L/R, I will go back and review to check to see if I may have them too wide. Thanks.