GearFest Mixing Contest

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DaveDaG said:
Thanks Cla, yes I love Harrison Mixbus; I will use it often, but not on everything
My main DAW is StudioOne V2, that's great for every kind of job: tracking, composing, editing, remixing, mixing etc.
I bought HM a couple of month ago, so not too much experience on that, but I can say that it works very well on acoustic or real instruments music and live like this one, it has a smooth sound as I like and it has a different sound separation mostly in the bass freq area, I love channels with eq, compression and busses sends on board (I had my first steps on a Soundcraft 48ch analog console, so this interface is quite familiar to me)
I use just the mixer section, absolutely not the edit window
I alway use S1 to import stems, to editing as split, double tracks, Melodyne jobs when required, I always use S1 mixer to organize tracks (is so flexible), I insert plugins needed to prepare the tracks with surgical eq, phase corrections, gate or expander or even special fx
Only when every single tracks is cleaned and sounds without issues, I put all single faders on 0dB and I route every channels or bus to HM
So I use the Hmixbus EQ&comp just to make the mix, to glue and find the right balance&pan
I have two monitors, the laptop one for S1, the external for HM mixer, I work with the two daws at the same time
I love this routing capabilitiy (thanks to JackRouting and Patchage)

With samples based mix I didn't find a real vantage so I remain just on S1

I listened to yours, a well done creative mix, I love the guitar phaser on 2.48, a nice spot color you could use a little more
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Hmmm, I haven't heard of JackRouting and Patchage. I'm going to have to look into that. From the looks of it, though, it's not for Windows? Maybe it is; I'll just have to look more into it. But yessss, I'm a S1 head, as well. It's one of the best things -- maybe even the best thing -- that could have ever happened to my musical life (in the context of production, engineering, and creation, of course). And that double-DAW juxtaposition sounds cool as hell. And that JackRouting thing -- does it have some sort of server/computer-linking capacity, so that CPU/RAM resources can be shared?

Thanks for the comments on my entry. Strangely, I was a bit apprehensive about "overdoing" anything for this entry, because I wasn't completely sure if I understood the parameters of the contest's specified rules AND what Puremix was looking for.
 
Clarity said:
Hmmm, I haven't heard of JackRouting and Patchage. I'm going to have to look into that. From the looks of it, though, it's not for Windows? Maybe it is; I'll just have to look more into it. But yessss, I'm a S1 head, as well. It's one of the best things -- maybe even the best thing -- that could have ever happened to my musical life (in the context of production, engineering, and creation, of course). And that double-DAW juxtaposition sounds cool as hell. And that JackRouting thing -- does it have some sort of server/computer-linking capacity, so that CPU/RAM resources can be shared?

Thanks for the comments on my entry. Strangely, I was a bit apprehensive about "overdoing" anything for this entry, because I wasn't completely sure if I understood the parameters of the contest's specified rules AND what Puremix was looking for.
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I am just wondering if you fellows have used the Waves SSL Channel Strip plugins and if so how or if they compare to the Mixbus? I only just found the Mixbus after reading your posts here, so I know very little about it and I am rather interested in exploring a bit further. I currently am using Studio 1 V2 and my mixing template is 32 channels each assigned with the SSL strip as my 'start point'. I use the SSL Master Buss compressor a bit too. The Mixbus looks like it would do a lot of the things my set up is doing and maybe more? Any chance of letting me know what your thoughts are? Also is there any compatibility issues or bugs in Windows 7 that you have come across. I run a Windows 7 machine i7 920 [First generation] with 16 gigs of ram.
 
davidpend said:
I am just wondering if you fellows have used the Waves SSL Channel Strip plugins and if so how or if they compare to the Mixbus? I only just found the Mixbus after reading your posts here, so I know very little about it and I am rather interested in exploring a bit further. I currently am using Studio 1 V2 and my mixing template is 32 channels each assigned with the SSL strip as my 'start point'. I use the SSL Master Buss compressor a bit too. The Mixbus looks like it would do a lot of the things my set up is doing and maybe more? Any chance of letting me know what your thoughts are? Also is there any compatibility issues or bugs in Windows 7 that you have come across. I run a Windows 7 machine i7 920 [First generation] with 16 gigs of ram.
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I used Waves SSL Channel Strip, generally its good for everything, but i use it on drum buss, never on vocals, i like it because of its colour
 
Those other posts were an attempt to get 10 posts in order to put my mix on this site. I was listening to other mixes and leaving posts pointing out the things I liked most about them.
 
I like this mix. It's very well balanced. The bass is very strong and reminds me of an old school rock mix. My mix is indeed a little brighter but my goal was to bring out the full clarity in the mix. I found that most of the low end in this song very muddy and focused on subtractive eq and panning to give the illusion of clean and open space. Maybe it's my monitors, interface, room or ears but my mix sounds that way to me and I feel that I have accomplished my goal. My mix is a little brighter then other I hear on soundcloud but I felt that to achieve my goal of clarity I would have to sacrifice a bit of low end. Anyway, there are so many great mixes in this contest and we all want to think our mix is the magic bullet. In the end we just have to be satisfied with our end product because a good engineer should't spend to much time second guessing his or her decisions. We made our choices in the moment based our emotional connection to the music and personal tastes. I wish everyone the best of luck in this competition.:listeningmusic:
 
GaugeFX said:
Those other posts were an attempt to get 10 posts in order to put my mix on this site. I was listening to other mixes and leaving posts pointing out the things I liked most about them.
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It's ok!) You can use "Reply With Quote" button. Try it!)
 
Clarity said:
Hmmm, I haven't heard of JackRouting and Patchage. I'm going to have to look into that. From the looks of it, though, it's not for Windows? Maybe it is; I'll just have to look more into it. But yessss, I'm a S1 head, as well. It's one of the best things -- maybe even the best thing -- that could have ever happened to my musical life (in the context of production, engineering, and creation, of course). And that double-DAW juxtaposition sounds cool as hell. And that JackRouting thing -- does it have some sort of server/computer-linking capacity, so that CPU/RAM resources can be shared?
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The right name is JackPilot and it's embeddeb in HM
Patchage is a small software (Just for MAC) it's a graphic integration of JackPilot (like a patch bay)
I did a quick search for a friend and it seams to me that Windows is a bit more limited for now in that routings
Everythings work on the same computer (a macbook 13' laptop in my case)
You have to start Jack at first, then you have to set on your daws "jackserver" as your soundcard
so Jack become your virtual soundcard making all the daws sharing audio flow

It's a CPU intense work I guess, infact the cooling fan blows all time
any way my mac is a simple i5 with 8Gb ram
Don't ask me more technical things, 'cause I'm not capable

Cheers
 
davidpend said:
I am just wondering if you fellows have used the Waves SSL Channel Strip plugins and if so how or if they compare to the Mixbus? I only just found the Mixbus after reading your posts here, so I know very little about it and I am rather interested in exploring a bit further. I currently am using Studio 1 V2 and my mixing template is 32 channels each assigned with the SSL strip as my 'start point'. I use the SSL Master Buss compressor a bit too. The Mixbus looks like it would do a lot of the things my set up is doing and maybe more? Any chance of letting me know what your thoughts are? Also is there any compatibility issues or bugs in Windows 7 that you have come across. I run a Windows 7 machine i7 920 [First generation] with 16 gigs of ram.
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I have both, Duende SSL channels/master Buss and Harrison Mixbus
are different things, you can't compare a plugin with a daw
But if I would have to choose between one or other (and I can't imagine why) I'ld choose SSL just because I use it in every kind of work
 
Rajk said:
I used Waves SSL Channel Strip, generally its good for everything, but i use it on drum buss, never on vocals, i like it because of its colour
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Great mix Rajk, I love how everything is under control (great job on snare)
 
fHumble fHingaz said:
I like the low end in your mix - it's nice & full.

Balance-wise, the vocals are nice & upfront & airy. However, I'm finding the balance[/URL] between the drums & guitar a little skewed. The drums are very "large", but the guitar suffers in relative "size" by comparison - it sounds quite "small", which tends to take some of the energy out of the song somewhat.

I like some of the little delay throws on the vocals - very subtle, but they do add some welcome movement & variety.

Speaking of ambiance, I think the mix would be served well with a little more generous use of ambiance - particularly the guitar would benefit from some room-style ambiance from it perhaps panned to the right channel of the mix in the interests of getting a realistic spatial image. The vocals also could do with some more "room" on them to give some spatial depth "behind" the vocalist. Using some pre-delay to keep the vocal "up front" will prevent things from sounding too "soaked" in reverb.

Nice work!
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davidpend said:
I thought that what was said in this review to Synonym Music said it so well I would just say...I agree.. Good feedback!
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Thank you both for listening.

Honestly I'd chalk this up more to sense of aesthetics than anything. There are a lot of delays and reverbs going on in my mix (channel count for spatial sends: about 8 or 9), but they all add up pretty subtly. I tried a more stereo-sounding space on the guitar and just didn't like it every time. Then there have been other people who have done exactly that had it work great in their mix. I went with what I felt was best - and in this case it's some intentional contrast.

Same with the vocals, though I'd probably agree on a stronger predelay to help push them back in the space slightly. I got 95% of the way there on them but not quite.

The way I created space with the guitar is one that's a little tricky to explain. It's via tone blending with the fuzz bass (a distorted mult of the DI IIRC) which makes it appear to extend slightly towards the middle. Then there's a spring reverb panned right, then there's a stereo delay line, then there's a haas delay panned right, then there's a send to the room reverb where the vocals and drums went too.

Good luck to you both and everyone else who entered.
 
DaveDaG said:
I have both, Duende SSL channels/master Buss and Harrison Mixbus
are different things, you can't compare a plugin with a daw
But if I would have to choose between one or other (and I can't imagine why) I'ld choose SSL just because I use it in every kind of work
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Thanks mate...yes I went and had a good look at Mixbus and now see that my question did not make a lot of sense. I was not really sure what exactly it was :-) Looking at the Youtube demo gave me a good idea of it and it certainly does look to have some things going for it. It also looks like it is going to develop in the years ahead and I can think of a number of cool ideas to make it even better! I will stick with my current system for now and maybe download it to play around with while its so cheap.
 
Did anybody by any chance had the official deadline to enter this contest as June 17th 2013 which would be tomorrow?
 
Thanks! yeah I had the wrong deadline listed on the link for the contest.
Nice mix by the way!
 
i enjoy the mix especially at the end of the song it has a lot of weight to it.
 
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