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Yes, if your HMO doesn't cover vasectomys please let me know and I'll post her singing for you..

very nice ...... I see where your screen name comes from.Yes, if your HMO doesn't cover vasectomys please let me know and I'll post her singing for you..![]()
very nice ...... I see where your screen name comes from.
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I ate at a Japanese steakhouse the other day. Pretty good. And I like Nuru Massage. Japanese stuff rules!
nah ..... some people are indeed tone deaf and others will never be able to sing well.
I was there in 2005. Very expensive for Americans. Our money spends like Pesos or somemthing.
My brother lived there for about 7 years and is married to a wonderful woman from Yokohama. So I went to visit them. They now live in Shanghai. I'll make it to visit them at some point.
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well, you're essentially saying that everyone can do everything equally well if they work at it ......... that's just not so.The only reason tone deaf people never learn to sing is because of a lack of interest in putting in the required effort, or in singing altogether. Ofcourse, IMO![]()
True. Look up "Nyotaimori"
I know a woman from Yokohama, extremely nice and courteous person. Infact, most Japanese people I know are the same. Did you get to go to Tokyo ?
You guys are kidding yourselves if you really think almost anyone can sing or play at a high level.
well, ..... first I totally agree about 'making' it in the business. That's unrelated to skill a lot of the time and, as I said earlier, is a totally different subject.I think there really are people who can't sing, and there really are people who can't play an instrument, but they are a really tiny minority. There are, however, many, many, people who can't teach *themselves* to sing or play. Almost all of the people I know who have played or sung for years and still suck have refused to admit that they need to take lessons. There may be people who can teach themselves to be neurosurgeons, but most folks need to go to medical school, and undergo internship and residency. My other point is that there are plenty of professional singers that have done rather well in spite of the fact that their voices suck, or they never learned how to sing, or both. IMHO, your time and mental energy will be much better spent learning how to sing than worrying about how your voice sounds, or how you will make money doing it. That, unfortunately, is the sad truth, that there are a lot more great singers and players going broke than there are millionaire superstars. Learning how to make money with music is another skill set entirely, and often works against becoming a really good musician.-Richie
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I'm not saying almost anyone, I'm saying absolutely anyone can be a great singer IF they get the right training and put in the right amount of time. Sure, it may come more easily to others, but I refuse to believe it's impossible for anyone.
However, there really isn't any way either one of us can prove our point beyond doubt. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe there are people out there who are incapable of singing, who knows?
Here we go again- the old "nature vs. nurture" deal. In other words, talent vs. practice. First, if you take up guitar and take lessons, how long will it take to go from noob to guitar god? Say, 3-5 years, to begin with. If I grab some enthusiastic noob off the street and give him guitar lessons, in 3-5 years will he be Jimi Hendrix, Andre Segovia, Charlie Christian, Pete Townsend, Julian Bream? Probably not. Will he be able to play better than 99% of the people you meet on the street? Probably. Will fanatic practice make you a player in the NFL? Probably not. I know this from personal experience. I was an all state interior lineman, and if I was 6' 8" instead of 5' 8", I'd probably be a retired millionaire by now. So get over it. I can't make myself 6' 8", and you can't take a pill and become Freddy Mercury. That's probably a good thing, at least for your wife.
So what makes us so uptight about singing? First, the instrument is part of us. If a guitar sucks, you can get a new guitar. If your voice sucks, all you can do is learn to play it better. But in your mind, it's all about *you*, as if your nose was too big or your dick too small. Have you ever heard a guitar god play a cruddy guitar? It sounds a lot better than a bad guitarist playing a mint condition vintage Martin. When you are born, you go to God's guitar store, and he gives you the only one you are ever going to get. Some people get that vintage Martin, and others a Hondo with a warped top and a bent neck. I got a cheap Ovation that at least holds its tune. Like any instrument, it's up to you whether you learn how to play it, and whether you take care of it.
The other weird thing is that large numbers of non-singers and would-be singers act as if singing was a natural born gift, as if some people were born guitar players and others just can't learn. Voice seems to be the only instrument where people actually believe that crap. Pop, rock, blues, and Broadway are full of people who have lousy voices but have learned how to sing anyway. They are also full of people with perfectly good voices who *haven't* learned how to sing, because, as Lt. Bob correctly pointed out, luck is a huge factor in success (second only to money and hype).
Willie Nelson has an awful voice, but he learned to sing. So did Bob Dylan (sort of), and Jerry Garcia, Keb' Mo, Bruce Springstein, Mick Jagger, and a host of others. Then there are people with beautiful voices that have never learned to sing, but do anyway, like Jessica Simpson, Ann Margaret, Gwen Stefani.
In the end, if your voice sucks, you have to practice singing, because it will suck less. Then learn to support your singing by playing an instrument well (Jerry Garcia), having a story to tell (Bob Dylan), being backed up by a really good rhythm section (Bruce Springstein), putting on an elaborate stage show (Lady Gaga), or getting lucky (Tiny Tim). Until you can tell me that you have taken professional voice lessons for 3-5 years, and sung in a vocal group or choir for at least 2, you won't convince me that you can't sing at a "professional" level. And- until you *have* done that, you're just one more person with an ordinary set of vocal cords who hasn't made the commitment to be a singer.-Richie
Summary please.
Nice, thanks.So your voice sucks. Get over it. Take lessons, and remember lots of people got rich sucking, not just ho's.
But in your mind, it's all about *you*, as if your nose was too big or your dick too small..-Richie
So, I want to make a demo CD.
My question is , is their any software, technique, EQs, processing that would make my voice something someone would want to hear?
While I haven't listened to anything he's done with both ears after "Infidels", the stuff I have prior to that sounds OK to me. When I hear some singers that I think are out of tune it really grates on me. For me Dylan has never been one of those.Grim- Bob Dylan does *not* stay in tune. I love him, but every note he's ever sung has been flat relative to the music. It's become a signature sound for him. Then he adjusts the pitch until it's almost true, and then moves on to the next flat note.