Interfaces for large-ish drum kit home recording

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Greg_L said:
I'm not a know-it-all. I don't know anything. You got your answer. After that, it's fair game. :)

What does "hoop your forehead" mean anyway?
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well, when you go to jail, if you wanna bring drugs or smokes in and not get caught. you hoop them (shove them up your ass). hoop your forehead.
 
Haha. Hey OP go read "drum bus question" and see how arguing like this turned out.

Seriously, less is more when you're starting out. 4 mics will sound better than 12 if you don't know what you're doing. Get the basics then add more mics as you learn. Drums are hard and 12 mics will make it very hard.
 
Lol. That's all I was saying. Going from never recording drums to recording with 12 mics is gonna be a massive trainwreck that I wanna hear.
 
im just worried that i wont be able to capture everything with so few mics, but you said this, and buddy posted a link about dream theatres sound being captured with 3 mics, so now you got me thinking haha. thanks man
 
Greg_L said:
Lol. That's all I was saying. Going from never recording drums to recording with 12 mics is gonna be a massive trainwreck that I wanna hear.
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well thanks for the vote of confidence. but yeah ill def. post tracks once i figure it all out and get em laid out
 
realmofdarkness said:
well thanks for the vote of confidence. but yeah ill def. post tracks once i figure it all out and get em laid out
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It's not that I don't think you can do it, it's just that I don't think you can do it right off the bat.

Don't waste your original material on the learning process. Practice with some covers or some less important songs, then when you feel you've got a good enough handle on recording drums, which aint easy, then record your good stuff.
 
oh for sure man. i just wanna get the right euipment the first time, not buy this, then have to buy something else a month later
 
Okay now I'm gonna tell you what to do:

Make sure you can play the parts you wanna record cleanly
Make sure your drums are tuned to the best they can sound
Make sure you're recording in the best sounding room you can use
Take your time in setting up the mics - overheads don't just go anywhere
Don't be lame and immediately reach for samples
 
Yeah I was just gonna say, not another 'offcenter':rolleyes: Man that thread went on for almost 50 pages :eek:

realmofdarkness, no one here is targeting you. If you stick around, I guarantee you'll get some very good advice. If drums are your thing, go to the MP3 clinic and check out Greg and Rami's stuff, you'll be surprised how pro sounding home recordings can be. So don't mind a little sarcasm, ask lots of questions, and have fun climbing a very huge learning curve :D
 
I am often surprised at the mentality of new drummers when it comes to mic selection (I don't know how relevant it is to this thread but it is worth mentioning anyway) as they tend to go for good mics on the kit (mainly snare and kick) and then when it comes to overheads they use whatever cheap piece of shit they can find. The exact opposite is actually what you should be doing. I'm not saying the kit mics don't matter. It would be nice to have the best mics on everything, but don't skimp on the overheads. 80% of a good drum sound will come from the overheads so these are the most important investment in your drum mic collection. You don't have to spend a grand but you aint gonna get by with 20$ welfare mics either.
 
saads said:
Yeah I was just gonna say, not another 'offcenter'
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It was headed that way. Hell, it might still go there. :D

That guy was one of the biggest losers we've had in here for a while. Gotta give him credit for that.
 
saads said:
Yeah I was just gonna say, not another 'offcenter':rolleyes: Man that thread went on for almost 50 pages :eek:

realmofdarkness, no one here is targeting you. If you stick around, I guarantee you'll get some very good advice. If drums are your thing, go to the MP3 clinic and check out Greg and Rami's stuff, you'll be surprised how pro sounding home recordings can be. So don't mind a little sarcasm, ask lots of questions, and have fun climbing a very huge learning curve :D
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i was just looking for an answer to a question, and this guy comes in laughing like im a fuckin joke. like..sorry. i already made it very clear in a dumb ass when it comes to this, and have no idea what im talking about. hence why i am here. maybe i should rephrase the question. i own 8 drums, and 11 cymbals. i have a computer that is record-ready (my brother had it in his home studio type dealio before getting his laptop) i have an individual mic for each drum, and 4 pencil condensers. when it comes to the mics, im NOT SAYING i HAVE to use them all, just saying, thats what i've got available to me. what sort of device should i purchase to allow me to put some tracks on a computer that sound decent?
 
P.S. - I don't think you're a joke or a dumbass. Telling someone to "hoop their forehead" is kind of funny though. I just know that recording drums for the first time with 12 mics is gonna be hilarious. :D

I'm a proponent of using lots of mics. I'm not a member of the you-only-need-two-or-three-mics camp. If you're doing metal, which I think you said you are, you're probably gonna wanna mic all of the drums. Not all of the cymbals, but all of the drums. Don't worry about a hi-hat mic or a ride mic. Just use two well placed overheads (spaced pair, x/y, ortf, recorderman, etc) and put a mic on each drum. Your journey is just getting started.......
 
the only off center i know is a left/right pan. sorry we got off on the wrong foot, i take things a little too much to the heart sometimes, but yeah, you are right, its probably gunna be hilarious, and ill end up giving up like 30 times before i get it right. but my buddy and i have been sitting on this stuff for a long ass time, and im beyond the point of talking about 'getting it done someday' i just wanna do it. and now i have the extra funds to get something, so i wanna get it right haha. so 2 condensers should do the trick nicely? now onto an interface haha. any suggestions?
 
The interface mentioned earlier should be fine. Any interface with at least 8 XLR inputs is gonna be good. If that tascam thing can do 10 or 12, go with it.

Offcenter was a guy in here that asked some drum questions and didn't like the answers so he went all pissy apeshit bananas on everybody. You showed hints of going that route, but you held back and that's cool. No need to apologize to me. :)

I'm telling you, your first tries at recording drums are probably gonna suck. That's just the way it is. I think it goes that way for everyone. That's why I suggested doing a lot of practice recordings first on stuff that isn't important. Nothing sucks worse than putting out a mediocre product and then a few weeks later learning a new trick or technique that gives you a huge improvement in sound. Then you're like, FUCK! I can tell you from personal experience that it's worth it to hone your skills before you go trying to record stuff that's really important to you. If you just wanna get it down on tape so you don't forget, well that's different. But if it's something you wanna be proud of for a long time, save it until you're ready. Anyway, recording drums is tough but it's very rewarding when you start getting it good. Not many people can really play the drums, and even fewer can record them well. It just takes practice.
 
Greg_L said:
The interface mentioned earlier should be fine. Any interface with at least 8 XLR inputs is gonna be good. If that tascam thing can do 10 or 12, go with it.

Offcenter was a guy in here that asked some drum questions and didn't like the answers so he went all pissy apeshit bananas on everybody. You showed hints of going that route, but you held back and that's cool. No need to apologize to me. :)

I'm telling you, your first tries at recording drums are probably gonna suck. That's just the way it is. I think it goes that way for everyone. That's why I suggested doing a lot of practice recordings first on stuff that isn't important. Nothing sucks worse than putting out a mediocre product and then a few weeks later learning a new trick or technique that gives you a huge improvement in sound. Then you're like, FUCK! I can tell you from personal experience that it's worth it to hone your skills before you go trying to record stuff that's really important to you. If you just wanna get it down on tape so you don't forget, well that's different. But if it's something you wanna be proud of for a long time, save it until you're ready. Anyway, recording drums is tough but it's very rewarding when you start getting it good. Not many people can really play the drums, and even fewer can record them well. It just takes practice.
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well i can assure you ive never even heard of this site before a couple of days ago. but yeah, i plan on burying myself in the basement for a long time to get the recording aspect down. probably will end up posting a bunch of messages on here about how everything wont work and this and that, but ill get it. i hope. haha. the skill part is no big deal. not saying im the worlds greatest drummer, but the material i wanna get done is stuff we've been working on/playing together for like 6 years now, so the material is about as tight as we're gunna get it, and were as stoaked about it today as we were the first time we played. i can definately say im ready to enter into a new world known as recording :) cheers for the help guys!
 
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