Best/Worse Drummers of All Time?

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Well, I don't know if he's the best, but his kit sure does sound nice, even with youtube's crappy audio.
 
Simon Philips played on the Who's 1989 Tommy tour, but it was actually Kenney Jones that immediately replaced Moon until their breakup in 1982. Zak Starkey is better than either one though :)
 
Zak Starkey does a pretty damn good job with the current version of The Who.
 
RAMI said:
Didn't he replace Moon in the Who?
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I think the band members were on the path to replacing Moon before he died anyway. They had given him ultimatums and he wasn't cutting it for the last couple of years. There's this documentary that I saw not long ago that shows him struggling to keep the beat and time and the band had to do alot of 'manipulation' in the studio afterwards on "Who are you ". It's kind of sad but almost inevitable.
 
grimtraveller said:
I feel ambivalent about this. On the one hand, it's interesting reading peoples' opinions and it promotes debate and discussion more than if the thread would say "discuss great drummers". I dig all that. But they also don't go anywhere. There have been so many drummers, I think most of them underrated. Tons of them never get mentioned in these thingies. Most of them never mentioned in these things !
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Yeah, I'm with you there. There are just so many innovative and creative musicians out there that are not widely known, but they have influenced many and have pioneered new ways of making music.
Have you ever heard of late 50's through 70's jazz drummer Sunny Murray? (He's still alive and living in Europe now, but I don't know if he's still recording). He almost singlehandedly pioneered "free-style" drumming in jazz when he was playing with Albert Aylers. Sometimes, the music is hard to listen to and our ears and minds aren't accustomed to the rhythms and the music structure, but it is real interesting and would be considered totally innovative and new thinking to even our 21st century ears (and it's 50 years old).
 
Rimshot said:
Have you ever heard of late 50's through 70's jazz drummer Sunny Murray? (He's still alive and living in Europe now, but I don't know if he's still recording). He almost singlehandedly pioneered "free-style" drumming in jazz when he was playing with Albert Aylers. Sometimes, the music is hard to listen to and our ears and minds aren't accustomed to the rhythms and the music structure, but it is real interesting
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Gosh, Sunny Murray ! Now that takes me back to my free jazz days. There were a number of drummers that adopted and pushed forward the free drumming, guys like Milford Graves, Elvin Jones, Andrew Cyrille,Tony Williams, Ed Blackwell, Billy Higgins and others. The thing I remember about Murray was that he refused to play straight at all, he was totally into tones and textures. Most of the others at least varied the records they played on and could bop away.
I think he played on Cecil Taylor's early stuff (criminally forgotten as a free jazz pioneer so much of the time). When my mate told me he refused to play straight, I respected him but I did find much of his stuff hard to access. He could be more intense and ferocious in his playing than any heavy rock drummer anyone would care to name.
 
grimtraveller said:
guys like Milford Graves, Elvin Jones, Andrew Cyrille,Tony Williams, Ed Blackwell, Billy Higgins and others.
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You just mentioned some of the more interesting drummers on my list. You're right, Murray played with Cecil Taylor in the very early 60's right before he hooked up with Aylers and Andrew Cyrille played with Taylor in the 90's. I'm not saying that these drummers are the greatest drummers of all time, but they pioneered some of the most outlandish (and often hard to listen to) music of the 20th century. By comparison the most extreme Death Metal sounds like "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" by comparison, and these guys were doing it over 50 years ago. Not my taste (I'm more of a BeBop and Hard Bop fan), but I have to tip my hat to these drummers for their contribution and balls to go where they went.
 
Rimshot said:
Not my taste (I'm more of a BeBop and Hard Bop fan), but I have to tip my hat to these drummers for their contribution and balls to go where they went.
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Same here, I like some free jazz but it was always better music to see and hear live than it was on record because rarely did it bear too many repeated listens.
Often there's a perception that metal and it's off shoots are the loudest, most intense forms of music but I've heard Irish folk with acoustic guitars that match and sometimes bury metallic guitars for intensity and as for some of the crazed crash bang wallop of the pianos, various horns and drums of free jazz.........
But therein lies the reason that it could never catch on in great quantities. After a while, music that deliberately goes wherever it will becomes something that takes just too much effort to listen to. It's not even pretty melodies one's looking for, just something, a riff, a groove, something one can latch onto and follow.
 
the best drummer is Travis Barker

the worst is Maureen Tucker
 
I always felt if you could take the best of Mitch Mitchell and the best of Buddy Miles you would have the ultimate drummer. Thunder and Lightning!
 
jordison rules!!! even his sig equipment sounds fantastic.
i like the part about how hes precise, skilled , and does the stuff that the old guys mentioned in this thread..wish..they could do..
jordison is also not limited to slipknot... he does play with about 3 different bands.
..huge slipknot fan! 9 folks live creating harmonies at blinding speeds is pretty f'n good
never seen a single band pull it off before them and no one since..
ya they wear masks..so did alice cooper, KISS, and several other bands..heck..half the drummers that were named here came from bands that put on makeup and tight pants before each show..
but..travis barker does suck..i'd smoke his stuff my back in my 3rd year of playin..over rated..
 
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