Are tubes

[Victory Pete]

Dude, don't waste your time with him apart from to bait him. The guy is a first rate cock and an ignorant one at that. You should remember that from your modding days.

Unless you have something to add to this thread concerning the topic at hand, go back to the Cave!
VP

 

[Greg_L]

Greg L probably has already read it all.

Read it? I invented it, bitch.

 

[muttley600]

Unless you have something to add to this thread concerning the topic at hand, go back to the Cave!
VP

Hark at the internet security guard. Come on then make me, come on I'm waiting, come on I'm still here. Whats keeping you. Come on I want to be slung out of here.

You're a joke VP just fuck off your not welcome here.

 

[mshilarious]

Dude, don't waste your time with him apart from to bait him. The guy is a first rate cock and an ignorant one at that. You should remember that from your modding days.

Nah, I don't think he caused trouble back then. At least that I remember.

Hey, what do you think of my lutherie

 

[muttley600]

Nah, I don't think he caused trouble back then. At least that I remember.

Hey, what do you think of my lutherie

Haha. He has been in front of every mod here for a warning and is just back from a 2 week ban. He won't listen to whatever you tell him in any case.

Nice pic what is it.

 

[mshilarious]

Haha. He has been in front of every mod here for a warning and is just back from a 2 week ban. He won't listen to whatever you tell him in any case.

Nice pic what is it.

Well the pic is crap, I suck at that. But it's a nice mic! The ebony bit is a boundary surface for an on-axis HF lift over 3kHz, to increase directionality and improve SNR. Schoeps had the idea first with their acoustic equalization sphere (they thought of everything first), but the plate has a more extreme on/off axis difference than the sphere, and they did theirs for a different reason--to change a free-field response to diffuse-field response. Instead, I (electronically) equalize the mic back to flat response--it isn't intended to be used without the plate as the corresponding HF cut is much too severe.

 

[muttley600]

Well the pic is crap, I suck at that. But it's a nice mic! The ebony bit is a boundary surface for an on-axis HF lift over 3kHz, to increase directionality and improve SNR. Schoeps had the idea first with their acoustic equalization sphere (they thought of everything first), but the plate has a more extreme on/off axis difference than the sphere, and they did theirs for a different reason--to change a free-field response to diffuse-field response. Instead, I (electronically) equalize the mic back to flat response--it isn't intended to be used without the plate as the corresponding HF cut is much too severe.

Is there a functional reason for the use of Ebony over other materials?

 

[mshilarious]

Is there a functional reason for the use of Ebony over other materials?

I could use another hardwood, I suppose, but ebony is pretty easy to deal with vs. something with larger grain. And I don't have to stain it, that's a plus. Also, I can get in supplied easily in the required thickness.

I don't really like plastics or metals, which is what you'd usually see for a boundary surface. It's trickier to measure, but there is certainly something to the structure of the material and its acoustics. You know a lot more about that than me. Same reason I don't like laminate flooring for a studio; it sounds too harsh. Anyway, it would cost me a lot more to get plastic or metal fabricated, this is only about $1 worth of ebony.

 

[muttley600]

I could use another hardwood, I suppose, but ebony is pretty easy to deal with vs. something with larger grain. And I don't have to stain it, that's a plus. Also, I can get in supplied easily in the required thickness.

I don't really like plastics or metals, which is what you'd usually see for a boundary surface. It's trickier to measure, but there is certainly something to the structure of the material and its acoustics. You know a lot more about that than me. Same reason I don't like laminate flooring for a studio; it sounds too harsh. Anyway, it would cost me a lot more to get plastic or metal fabricated, this is only about $1 worth of ebony.

Ebony is one of those timbers that is going to be seriously in short supply soon So stock up.

Other timbers that may be good and will work easy are the fruitwoods. Walnut, cherry, box, apple plum, etc.

I tell you what you send me a bunch of those mics and I'll make up the timber parts for you.

 

[mshilarious]

Ebony is one of those timbers that is going to be seriously in short supply soon So stock up.

Other timbers that may be good and will work easy are the fruitwoods. Walnut, cherry, box, apple plum, etc.

I tell you what you send me a bunch of those mics and I'll make up the timber parts for you.

Well I can use the B grade stuff so no worries there. I kinda like the brown streaks anyway--this one has one, but between the fingerboard oil and the bad pic you can't see it. It's much clearer in person.

My lifetime production for this mic is probably going to be in the amount of 20 guitar fingerboards or so. It's a mere 40mm disc.

I do end up with surplus nut-sized bits, you want those?

 

[muttley600]

Well I can use the B grade stuff so no worries there. I kinda like the brown streaks anyway--this one has one, but between the fingerboard oil and the bad pic you can't see it. It's much clearer in person.

My lifetime production for this mic is probably going to be in the amount of 20 guitar fingerboards or so. It's a mere 40mm disc.

I do end up with surplus nut-sized bits, you want those?

My scrap bin has the 40mm disc size bits in it so I can't see a use for the nut sized bits but thanks for the offer.

When are you sending me those mics then?

 

[mshilarious]

My scrap bin has the 40mm disc size bits in it so I can't see a use for the nut sized bits but thanks for the offer.

When are you sending me those mics then?

Really? Well the trick is I never have any stock, I build to order. But if you want to supply me with 40mm discs, I'd be interested . . . very interested! Nothing too involved, needs a 3/8" hole in the middle, and I hit the hole with a corner round (have to check size) before I drill out the 3/8". This is 1/4" thick stock.

 

[muttley600]

Really? Well the trick is I never have any stock, I build to order. But if you want to supply me with 40mm discs, I'd be interested . . . very interested! Nothing too involved, needs a 3/8" hole in the middle, and I hit the hole with a corner round (have to check size) before I drill out the 3/8". This is 1/4" thick stock.

To be honest if I was to make them up. I'd do it one of two ways. Either setup a pin router template or more likely. Take a length of 1 3/4" square, bore a 3/8 hole down the centre and turn the 40mm on a lathe. Slice it into whatever thickness I required. A lot would depend on how many and what grain orientation was required. I can knock some up if you want. PM me.

 

[Kingofpain678]

And here I thought this was 3 pages of people trying to help me. VP stay the fuck out of my threads.

 

[muttley600]

And here I thought this was 3 pages of people trying to help me. VP stay the fuck out of my threads.

Sorry dude, train wrecks tend to follow VP around.

In regard to your question. There isn't an answer.

Everything effects everything else and it's down to whether you like it or not. Thats why there are so many options in amps as well as life. T'would be boring if it were all the same.

 

[Kingofpain678]

In regard to your question. There isn't an answer.

Everything effects everything else and it's down to whether you like it or not. Thats why there are so many options in amps as well as life. T'would be boring if it were all the same.

Ya, Thanks muttdude

 

[Victory Pete]

And here I thought this was 3 pages of people trying to help me. VP stay the fuck out of my threads.

Excuse me but I believe I was discussing tube amps, solid state amps and related information. But if you wish I will certainly avoid your threads.
VP

 

[Kingofpain678]

Excuse me but I believe I was discussing tube amps, solid state amps and related information. But if you wish I will certainly avoid your threads.
VP

Ever heard of thread hijacking? this thread became about your ignorance and you failed attempts at learning about tubes as soon as you got here.

and not to mention the information you give is complete bullshit at best so yes, I'd prefer it if you steered clear from me.

 

[muttley600]

Excuse me but I believe I was discussing tube amps, solid state amps and related information. But if you wish I will certainly avoid your threads.
VP

Can you avoid everyone else's as well.

Thanks in anticipation.

 

[Tadpui]

About the actual topic at hand...

I agree with the sentiment that both clean and distorted tones are greatly affected by tubes. After owning a solid-state Fender Princeton Chorus for 10 or 15 years and an all-tube Traynor Custom Valve for about 6 years, I've worked up a pretty good comparison between SS and tube amps. The clean channel on my tube amp has way more "punch", which I would say is another word for "wide dynamic range" or "high headroom" maybe. There is such a huge difference between a lightly plucked note and a pounded 6-string barre chord.

The same goes for the crunch channel on my Traynor, where lighter distortion settings yield a very wide dynamic range and thus more "punch". It's not as punchy as the clean channel due to the natural compression in the gain staging. But, as the laws of gain staging dictate, the dynamic range decreases very steeply as I overdrive each gain stage by increasing gain/volume. Then the nice compression of tube distortion replaces the punchiness.