My Studio Set up

[Bisson820]

You matched it with a pre-built Dell. I get my parts from newegg and roll my own.
Of course then, there is also software availability, and the more or less "open market" and interchangeability of parts for PC. To me, I like the idea that I can crack the case open and swap parts as I choose.

I think a few pages back you said your Mac would blow away a PC. Then you just said you priced a comparable Dell and the Dell was $50 less. So was that Dell comparable, or would the Mac blow it away?

this is too funny.... because a few pages back you said a PC would blow away a mac.... and the only thing i said in regards to that is a pc will never blow a mac away... correct me if im wrong.

and i compared a dell of a similar price... not a comparable machine... yes... i believe the mac would blow away the PC of the comparable price.... thus meaning i dont think it to be all that probable for a PC of a LOT lesser of a price to be better

and you keep mentioning this PC that you built... please tell me what you put into it.

 

[iownrocknroll]

this is getting good!!!!!


i said it will not run at 1333Mhz unless it is in pairs of 3

I also stated e550x over i7 more often then not. anything dell precision and above that is intel based is an E chip not an I

the iMac does not have this chip plan and simple.

so it's not apples to apples

that's all i was getting at.

Sorry iownrocknroll, you are still incorrect with some of your ideas.

DDR3 doesn't mean it has to be in multiples of three. It just refers to the version of DDR.

As you said, with Core i7 (Nehalem architecture) the memory controller is integrated into the CPU. The original desktop Core i7 chips (Bloomfield) had the triple-channel DDR3 controllers, but the newer versions (Lynnfield, Clarksfield, and very soon Arrandale) are all back to dual-channel.


As for all the Unix stuff, here's a nice simplified family tree

Eh? I've had to fight with both ATI (and nvidia, though they tend to be easier) drivers on a variety on Linux distributions over the past few years, yet I don't understnad how this has any meaning that OS X cannot be a derivative of Unix (note: Linux is not Unix). Anyway, you don't have to continually recompile the kernel - ever heard of kernel modules?

 

[Bisson820]

this is getting good!!!!!


i said it will not run at 1333Mhz unless it is in pairs of 3

I also stated e550x over i7 more often then not. anything dell precision and above that is intel based is an E chip not an I

the iMac does not have this chip plan and simple.

so it's not apples to apples

that's all i was getting at.

and how will this lack of chip directly effect me running Logic pro?

 

[iownrocknroll]

this 1 chip can double the amount of dverbs in a pro tools hd sessions costing over 10 thousand dollars




you tell me.

 

[mattr]

this 1 chip can double the amount of dverbs in a pro tools hd sessions costing over 10 thousand dollars

Wait... PT HD is DSP based.

 

[Bisson820]

this 1 chip can double the amount of dverbs in a pro tools hd sessions costing over 10 thousand dollars




you tell me.

well im 100% certain that the set up im getting will allow me to do everything i want to do to my recordings and more...

so i dont think "double the amount of dverbs in a protools hd sessions" is all that necessary.

cool info tho, just not sure of its relevance to me.

im not willing to risk PC's problems for something i dont need.

 

[iownrocknroll]

don't ever change your short name *wink wink

 

[mattr]

so i dont think "double the amount of dverbs in a protools hd sessions" is all that necessary.

But it wouldn't double; iownrocknroll is doing quite well at spreading misinformation at the moment

TDM plugins in PT HD run on the DSP cards (i.e. "HD Core" or "Accel Core" cards) which the CPU has little or no effect on.

You can run native plugins (i.e. RTAS plugins, and possibly AUs if I remember correctly) in HD, but one would assume that you were talking about TDM plugins if you specified PT HD otherwise there would be no need to say it - if you were talking about performance with native plugins then that could be applied to any DAW.

So yes, you may be able to run a few more instances of Dverb if you have the native version, but I doubt it would be double.

 

[mattr]

i said it will not run at 1333Mhz unless it is in pairs of 3

Err, yes it will!

The RAM frequency is independent of any interleaving.


But just to emphasize...
Bloomfield chips have triple-channel controllers.
Lynnfield, Clarksfield, and Arrandale have dual-channel controllers.

Here's a link to a product page for one of the Lynnfield chips if you still don't believe me.

 

[iownrocknroll]

the bench test show you can almost double native what an hd3 system 3 can do with dverb 1 it's slightly less with dverb 2

i am comparing HD3 to LE version 8 cs3

But it wouldn't double; iownrocknroll is doing quite well at spreading misinformation at the moment

TDM plugins in PT HD run on the DSP cards (i.e. "HD Core" or "Accel Core" cards) which the CPU has little or no effect on.

You can run native plugins (i.e. RTAS plugins, and possibly AUs if I remember correctly) in HD, but one would assume that you were talking about TDM plugins if you specified PT HD otherwise there would be no need to say it - if you were talking about performance with native plugins then that could be applied to any DAW.

So yes, you may be able to run a few more instances of Dverb if you have the native version, but I doubt it would be double.

 

[mattr]

the bench test show you can almost double native what an hd3 system 3 can do with dverb 1 it's slightly less with dverb 2

So if I get you correctly, LE on a good spec PC/Mac can run double the number of instances of Dverb than a HD3 system can run on DSP?

Ok, if that is correct then I'm sorry and I must take back what I said, but you do need to be clear with stuff like this when posting. Your original one-line comment on this with no explanation left a lot to the imagination! We're not psychic and can't know what you are thinking unless you write it!

 

[Jeff_D]

and i compared a dell of a similar price... not a comparable machine... yes... i believe the mac would blow away the PC of the comparable price....

You posted a machine of similar specs. I'd say they'd perform comparably- especially in the context of what is required to record audio. The thing I don't know is what is really inside each of those machines- i.e. quality of components, integrated video or video card, etc. In all honesty, I'm not motivated to even check. Looking at the two machines you posted, I'd take the Dell, although like I said, when I need a new computer, I go to newegg and order parts... that way I know whats going into it.

and you keep mentioning this PC that you built... please tell me what you put into it.

Do you want to compare the system I built 5 years ago for under $500 to you Mac you want to buy now for 3x more $? Your Mac will probably be faster . Since you asked, its a Asus board with a single core AMD 2500 processor and a gig of ram, and a pair of Seagate drives (one for backups) running Windows XP built in a cheapo NewEgg case. There isnt anything special about the specs (not now, not 5 years ago), but it works fine. I record on it weekly using a pair of MAudio 1010lt cards (one of these days I'll get a new interface). 12-13 simultaneous tracks is not a problem (the cards allow up to 16 analog, but I don't have enough mics to use all the channels- I'm relatively confident it'll handle it though). Oh, and that, and all of my machines are connected to the internet. I don't think I've ever had a virus on that one, but I have had 1 or two over the past couple years on the other 2 machines (I'll blame my wife for those ).

To be fair, I did blow up the original microatx power supply once trying to install a dual head video card. I'll call that a combination of super cheap power supply and me knowing better but trying anyway.