Fruity Loops or Protools?

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For what you're wanting the program to do, forget about Reaper... It just isn't designed for it. If I were you, I'd go with Logic for sure. Does everything you're wanting out of a program, and more.

Full MIDI integration for softsynth/hardware sequencing, and audio recording/editing-- all in one project... no switching back and forth from program to program, like you would have to do if you went with a primarily audio based software.

Easy to get the hang of as well.
 
For what you're wanting the program to do, forget about Reaper... It just isn't designed for it. If I were you, I'd go with Logic for sure. Does everything you're wanting out of a program, and more.

Full MIDI integration for softsynth/hardware sequencing, and audio recording/editing-- all in one project... no switching back and forth from program to program, like you would have to do if you went with a primarily audio based software.

Easy to get the hang of as well.

I love apple, but I run a PC, so Logic is out.

I'm leaning towards Cubase, is that a good match to Logic on a PC?

I'm looking for a really cool HUD to be the final deciding factor.
 
Sonar can be used on multiple screens...check which other ones can..I know ableton and Studio One dont support this
 
Sonar can be used on multiple screens...check which other ones can..I know ableton and Studio One dont support this

Hmm. Well Sonar just took a jump up.

So its between Cubase & Sonar.

How/where can I find if Cubase is able to be used on multiple screens?

If it cant, I'll get Sonar for sure.
 
Hmm. Well Sonar just took a jump up.

So its between Cubase & Sonar.

How/where can I find if Cubase is able to be used on multiple screens?

If it cant, I'll get Sonar for sure.


Im going to commit a cardinal sin here..even though I use Sonar if I hadnt paid for it I would've switched by now

and here's the reason why..in Sonar effect envelopes are a complete pain in the arse..they haven't fixed them in the 8.5 update either...using envelopes (and you will be using these) is better in nearly every other DAW Ive tried..Cakewalk really dropped the ball on this unfortunately

Cubase will almost definitely support multi screen...stick a post in the cubase forum here to check...they also have some pretty decent tutorials on the Steinberg site that will get you up and running in 20 minutes

Just don't tell anyone on the Cakewalk board that I suggested this :eek::)
 
I'm 99% positive you can use multiple screens with Reaper.
Unfortunately, I don't have dual monitors at home. :(
 
The more I'm reading it seems Sonar is starting to take a close 2nd to ProTools as an industry standard & super high quality music production?

And Cubase seems to actually be less preferred than Sonar.

I have a 2 computers that I will be working on for music that are setup on a network, can both computers use a single copy of Sonar or Pro tools?
 
sonar officially allows two PCs running on one copy...but where is cubase ranked third?


ive never never heard anywhere..there is no first, second, third unless you're talking sales then, I think, Sonars third...
 
sonar officially allows two PCs running on one copy...but where is cubase ranked third?


ive never never heard anywhere..there is no first, second, third unless you're talking sales then, I think, Sonars third...

Hmm. I like that aspect of Sonar.

Ehh I was reading an outdated article when I left that message. So maybe Cubase is higher ranked now.

A lot of people were just saying Sonar is kind of taking over as the next PT.
 
After some more research, I see PT doesnt come in a 64 bit.

Cubase is pretty buggy in 64

Sonar seems to be the only one thats really stable.

That just made that decision pretty easy.

Whats the real differences between Sonar Producer & Studio?

I assume I should just go with Producer?
 
I love Sonar. Made the switch last year and haven't found anything to complain about :)
I got Studio edition... there was nothing extra in Producer edition that would benefit me.
 
i use studio as well..didnt need all the extras except z3ta which you can get seperately
 
Hmm. I like that aspect of Sonar.

Ehh I was reading an outdated article when I left that message. So maybe Cubase is higher ranked now.

A lot of people were just saying Sonar is kind of taking over as the next PT.

no what I meant is there is no ranking, they all excel, just in some areas more than others..

the only sales figures are years old...and popularity doesn't mean best necesserally
 
If you're down to making choice based primarily on appearance then Reaper should be out. Theoretically they (and a number of other apps, Audition for example, have variety of 'skins' so individuals can customize appearance) Unfortunately for intense audio work graphic eye candy comes with a fairly steep price. As a general rule of thumb if you have difficulty with audio A/D, with current drivers, the first culprit to check is the video card. If work is audio intensive, again as a very general rule, you tend to want a video display adapter that makes the least demands on computer resources and still works. The higher the track count the higher the 'clip' count the more important it is to have a functionally efficient video display that does not interfere with audio (generally speaking these choices need to start with MOBO). And with regard to desk top computer evolution audio has always been and remains the step child . . .

While editing and mixing, even with multiple monitors, you still spend a fair amount of time zooming in, zooming out . . . moving (hopefully rapidly) from marked location to marked location, jumping from multitrack view to edit view, shuffling among different ways of displaying data (amplitude against time, frequency against amplitude, for example) . . .

if audio work is purely hobby this is less of a problem then finding, when on a tight deadline that changing visual focus occurs with significant foot tapping lag . . . audio drops out as screen redraws, even a second here and there builds up over a 14 hr. tracking/mixing season . . . and depending on efficiency of software (how are 'undos' managed? because inelegantly crafted software can cause undos to drag performance to virtual stand still) graphics induced 'lag' tends to build up just at the point where hearing crowds fatigue, attempting to complete a complex sequence of cross fades (partially so thought process decision making remains consistent) before you shut down for the night constantly stalls against video lag (nor is it necessarily vid lag but that vid steals resources from audio) One of the reasons I like Reaper for tracking is it's default low impact graphic interface make it a great tracking interface. Have a version that runs fine on a home assembled K6-III (450 mHz) tracking into a SCSI drive train. Would not use that system for any but the most rudimentary editing anymore but it still works fine as a recorder.

Main point of first post was that which of the readily available apps will be the most beneficial is dependent on variables only you know. Appearance can make a great deal of difference, in learning curve, in ability to rapidly move among tasks. Appearance can even facilitate or hamper necessary experimentation. While 30 day demo's are insufficient to actually determine which app will work best they are your first best choice, far better then published reviews (though once you have some experience with apps published reviews can be useful) and advice from strangers whose work process is wildly divergent from anything you'll devise. (case in point is individual who kept stressing Logic (or maybe it was several individuals) even though I had thought you were clear that you were working in Wintel environment) in figuring out which app seems to best facilitate your learning curve And none of this is absolutely simple. You might like Sonar's all in one approach, and find it's included VSTI's to be invaluable. You find it's basic appearance to suit you . . . but it's weakness in using graphic 'envelopes' to manipulate data might cost far more time and sleep, over the long haul, then not having to search for specific VST & VSTI's saves.
 
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