Mics to avoid like the Plague

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Yeah...but it still gets beaten at that at that price point...but I assume that might be the reason that mic is still in production.

The AT3035 at the same price of a C3000b is an all arround good mic and better at acoustic guitar...and incredible overhead mics in my experince.
 
just to throw a wrench in the works.

A lot of what mics people like or hate nowadays seems to me to come from the modern recording process where we use plug ins for everything and so, want a mic to be correct tonewise without any EQ.

I certainly could use a 3000B and get a passable sound 'cause I'm all analog and can just grab a handful of tone knobs and tweak it into submission.
Having said that ...... I still always prefer the sound of every other mic I have (all cheapos) than the 3000B
 
It's a tool. Before I write off a mic as useless, I should have evaluated what role my gear, room, talent, and experience as an engineer played in capturing the sound I'm so unhappy with. Mics don't care what you are recording.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
Yeah...but it still gets beaten at that at that price point...but I assume that might be the reason that mic is still in production.

The AT3035 at the same price of a C3000b is an all arround good mic and better at acoustic guitar...and incredible overhead mics in my experince.
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I totally agree, but to avoid it like the plague is too strong in that instance. If a guy has a 3000B sitting around, or any other POS like the sm57(:rolleyes:), USE IT IF YOU GOT IT and NEED it.

and as far as the "thread to refer them to", dude, I haven't been in this forum for 2 years and I swear to god it's like I never left. Just remove the freaking search function if no one is going to use it. :p

Sorry, I'll take my opinions and leave here now. Even though I am totally right :D
 
Supercreep said:
It's a tool. Before I write off a mic as useless, I should have evaluated what role my gear, room, talent, and experience as an engineer played in capturing the sound I'm so unhappy with. Mics don't care what you are recording.
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That's all I'm saying. I have a junky piece of crap that I use to record my floor tom when my kit is set up. I have no idea what kind of mic it is because there's a piece of tape holding it together. It captures the sound of that instrument as well as it needs to be captured.
 
But why work with crap in the first place...some stuff you are only going to get marginal results with no matter how much time and tweaking you have to do.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
But why work with crap in the first place...some stuff you are only going to get marginal results with no matter how much time and tweaking you have to do.
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If I have the option to choose between an awesome mic and an sm57(sorry, I will NOT be able to get past that one), I will choose the "awesome" mic. If my choice is to use a less than desireable mic and not recording........
 
Since when is it hard to get your hands on an SM57?...even this discussion here is rooted in the area of...Dont buy this turd with a cord...and the SM57 is used in all studios from my meager operation all the way up to Capitol Records...Headly Grange...Abbey Road.

at a price of $50 used it beats everything.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
Since when is it hard to get your hands on an SM57?...even this discussion here is rooted in the area of...Dont buy this turd with a cord...and the SM57 is used in all studios from my meager operation all the way up to Capitol Records...Headly Grange...Abbey Road.

at a price of $50 used it beats everything.
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what? .
 
darrin_h2000 said:
But why work with crap in the first place...some stuff you are only going to get marginal results with no matter how much time and tweaking you have to do.
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True.

However, it's also true that a crappy engineer or a home reccer with zero patience to experiment can use perfectly suitable equipment to yield crappy results.

The important thing is to recognize when your talent and expertise is so great that it's the mic holding you back.

I don't know anyone who fits that description, insofar as the C3000b goes.

I have heard some excellent recordings using this mic, as well as it's maligned cousin the C1000s.
 
To the guy who attacked my post about the SM57.

Note that I never said I didn't like it. Its a good mic, its just I have better mics for every application I would use it for. I use an i5 on snares, an e609/Fat Head II combo on amps, etc. etc.

Its not bad on vocals though, but when I get my SM7b in a few months then that's out the window as well.
 
Supercreep said:
True.

However, it's also true that a crappy engineer or a home reccer with zero patience to experiment can use perfectly suitable equipment to yield crappy results.

The important thing is to recognize when your talent and expertise is so great that it's the mic holding you back.

I don't know anyone who fits that description, insofar as the C3000b goes.

I have heard some excellent recordings using this mic, as well as it's maligned cousin the C1000s.
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You still dont get the point...when there are 100 better choices at the same price point...why even use the C3000b or the C1000...I like my c414 but Id have to say that Id choose most chinese mics over the C3000b or the C1000...and I dont like buying those.

Why saddle yourself with a mic that will give you a problem right off the bat...I kinda find that series by AKG to be alot like the blue mics where you need to buy the whole line to have your bases covered...or you can get a KSM44 and have a great multipurpose mic.
 
I know the I5 is supposed to be this cure-all... but the only good use I've found for it is on horns and sometimes on double miced guitar cabs live.
 
Supercreep said:
There are more bad engineers than there are bad mics.
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I've got an old guitar at home that is out of tune with itself . . . it is seriously nasty.

This guitarist came around and agreed that it was a piece of crap. But he proceeded to play it . . . and he made it sound sweet . . . because he was skilled enough to know how to cope with its nastiness. He kind of bent the out of tune notes into tune and so on.

I've got an old hammer at home. It's face is pitted and no longer square from me using it clean bricks (using a masonary chisel). It's a crap hammer . . . but it stills gets nails into wood. It's a bit harder to use (i.e. less precise) than a nice shiny hammer, but it does the job.

A skilled practiioner can make good use of whatever is at hand. A novice would find it difficult.

Also, every mike has its own particular characteristics . . . and there is always an application which would make those characteristics ideal.
 
Seafroggys said:
To the guy who attacked my post about the SM57.

Note that I never said I didn't like it. Its a good mic, its just I have better mics for every application I would use it for. I use an i5 on snares, an e609/Fat Head II combo on amps, etc. etc.

Its not bad on vocals though, but when I get my SM7b in a few months then that's out the window as well.
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Other than overheads and bass drum Ill use SM57s on all the rest of the set...amps I want to sit in the mix gets the same mic too...but I kinda like it that way.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
You still dont get the point...when there are 100 better choices at the same price point...why even use the C3000b or the C1000...I like my c414 but Id have to say that Id choose most chinese mics over the C3000b or the C1000...and I dont like buying those.

Why saddle yourself with a mic that will give you a problem right off the bat...I kinda find that series by AKG to be alot like the blue mics where you need to buy the whole line to have your bases covered...or you can get a KSM44 and have a great multipurpose mic.
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I do get your point, which is why I indicated in my reply to your post that what you said was true.

The point I made, therefore, wasn't to supplant the point you were making.

It was to supplement it.
 
So I hope that you can understand why I was confused...lol.

Besides this thread is about mics like the samsons and Behringers and chinese stuff so many of us buy and then regret.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
So I hope that you can understand why I was confused...lol.

Besides this thread is about mics like the samsons and Behringers and chinese stuff so many of us buy and then regret.
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Absolutely. I've a good sized pile of cheap chinese condensers.
 
Me too...I might even regret badmouthing them...Id like to sell them if I can.
 
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