NEWB: Dorm Recording Help

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Alright, I've been a musician for years, but never had to deal with recording, let alone recording in a dorm room. The room is like 11x17 concrete walls, concrete floor with a little carpet over it.

I was wondering good techniques for soundproofing (so my neighbors don't get as pissed)
Drum isolation (they are bleeding into the mics like crazy)
Any general acoustic improvements that could be made.

Here's my set up

Drums/wood blocks/ congas
elec guitar
12 string guitar
bass
vocals

thru:
CAD drum mics
MXL 990/991 condensors
Behringer XM8200 dynamic
Shure SM58 dynamic
Shure SM57 dynamic
Behringer mixer (I'm trading up soon)

Anything I can do guys?!?!
 
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Did I mention, it has to be on the cheap ie. mineral wool, egg crates, cheap acoustic treatment, anything
 
NO sure if you tried yet, but try searching with in these forums. There is a ton of information already posted.

I'm sure you will find some low cost solutions.

Good luck.

Cheers
 
I mentioned this in another thread already, but I'll bring it up here too . . . .

Try reading Guerilla Home Recording. The whole book is about getting good sound in situations like yours. I'm about to start the same process as you are and the book has given me a great knowledge base on how to deal with this. It's a fun read and should get you started.
 
I was wondering good techniques for soundproofing (so my neighbors don't get as pissed)
The room is like 11x17 concrete walls, concrete floor with a little carpet over it.
Hello JustScott. Well, this is one of those situations where it's impossible to tell you what to do about "soundproofing". Without knowing a multitude of facts, suggestions are useless. Although, concrete walls and floors are in your favor as far as soundproofing is concerned, but are your worst enemy for recording. So is the size of the room.

At this point I would suggest you do the following.

1. Draw a plan showing your room, doors, hallways, adjacent NEIGHBORS rooms and tell us the whole situation of the DORM. Is this on a ground floor?

2. What is the ceiling made of and how high up is it? Is there a suspended cieling from a concrete floor above?

3. Are there HVAC ducts common to other spaces, such as your neighbors?

4. What are the doors made from? Are they hollow or solid?

5. Any exterior walls, or are all walls adjacent to other spaces, and who is in these spaces.

6. Have you even talked to neighbors about what they hear? Or have they complained? Have you listened to hear how loud the sound is in their space?
Try having a friend play some drums in your space while you listen in the neighbors if thats possible. Even then, communicating to us how loud this is is impossible. Only by measuring the sound level in your room is while drums/bass are playing, and then measuring the sound in adjacent spaces while the drums/bass play, would you be able to tell the difference in SPL. This is the problem with suggesting solutions to "soundproofing". Not to mention solutions that are cheap, portable, lightweight, and take no construction. They don't exist.

Understand this. Soundproofing takes MASS. And its expensive. And it takes a preexisting environment that is condusive to ALTERING, which a DORM is NOT. It takes tools, skills and a budget. And in some instances, it takes massive remodeling measures.

I won't go into the acoustic side yet. Untill you meke decisions on soundproofing solutions, it makes no sense. Once you know whether or not "sound proofing" solutions can in fact be done, then you can address the acoustic solutions.

At this point I will offer this though. Soundproofing is difficult under the best of circumstances, and may be impossible under some such as yours. Your best bet is to play quieter use a headphone system and connect the bass/guitars direct to the mixer(no amps), use electronic drums or other solutions. Or simply find another space to use if these are not viable solutions and your neighbors simply won't tolerate the volume.
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Have you considered going all electric, direct in until after college?


Its seems to me anything you WOULD do would have to be ripped out (ie complete waste of money) and at least you could take all the electronic stuff with you.

I just think you will be disappointed in the measures its going to take.
 
11x17' concrete room???

Your ONLY choice is to go all electric, plugging directly into a mixer or interface.

You are NOT going to magically soundproof a concrete box (cheap or otherwise)....
 
Seems to me a clever fellow would be able to find a large room - perhaps even an auditorium - on campus to record drum tracks in. You'll have to hump the gear in and out, but you'll have good drum tracks and the rest can get done in your dorm.
 
It's weird how drums do that when you mic them. :eek:


You know what I mean... They're bleeding into vocal mics.

And We found a "band practice room" but it's smaller than my dorm- I'd say 12x12 but has drywall and better carpeted floors, would that do much better? I can't imagine so with drums being so close. I go to a 1,000 person college, so spaces are limited :/
 
Ah college, the good ol' days. I was in the exact same situation as you with just about the exact same room and only a couple of years ago. The only way you are likely going to get away with recording drums ('soundproofing" or no) is if you have really cool neighbors...and we are talking upstairs, downstairs, and several rooms down. If your college has a music program, the music building is a great place to look...but you might have to pretend you are actually in the program :p

Funny tangent, my sophomore year I was lucky enough to be next to the building stairwell so I was like: "Hey, less neighbors to worry about!" I set everything up and dampened every drum and cymbal to the point where they didn't even seem natural anymore. Started rocking out and about 10min later had a knock on the door. As it turned out, the floor below me was the honors/quiet floor. :D

Edit: You posted before me while I was typing all that up. Why not use that practice space...record everyone live...and use that as a reference track. Then go back and rerecord drums, bass, guitar then vocals individually?
 
You know what I mean... They're bleeding into vocal mics.

And We found a "band practice room" but it's smaller than my dorm- I'd say 12x12 but has drywall and better carpeted floors, would that do much better? I can't imagine so with drums being so close. I go to a 1,000 person college, so spaces are limited :/


Churches and/or theatre outfits nearby? Doesn't hurt to ask.
 
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