Dumping my outboard gear...

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Also, UAD is famous for their support,

I think the word you are looking for is "infamous"

their "support" consists of such gems of wisdom such as

and Im not kidding

"Disable then re-enable the uad-1 card every time you start or stop playback on your DAW" as a workable solution

with friends like that....
 
Oh, and Guitar Zero - if you ever head up to Portland, you are welcome to come check out the UAD plugin's here at my place.

Did not know you were in Portland. I would love to come visit your studio. I'll PM you.
 
no problem :)

incidentally, i'm in a similar situation-- i am running logic 8 on a pimped out mac mini dual core. my main plugin bundle for compression and eq is urs classic console strip pro and i'm pretty amazed at how many instances i can run in a mix at one time and at the quality of the compression and eq emulations. i had a purple action compressor that i recently sold in order to help fund another nice pre (a lachapell 583s), because i prefer adding compression in the box. i still have a langevin dvc for some light limiting while tracking, but i figure any major squashing is best left to be done itb given the quality of plugs these days.

also, if you haven't gotten it already, get the free/donationware au version of massey tapehead-- "tapehead medium" and try it out on drum and mix buss-- awesome!

Koj, thanks. You run any VSTs on your console?
 
Koj, thanks. You run any VSTs on your console?

mostly au's. i am kind of on the fence between mac and pc right now and still using both, so i will use vst's on my pc sometimes, but not often on my mac.
 
mostly au's. i am kind of on the fence between mac and pc right now and still using both, so i will use vst's on my pc sometimes, but not often on my mac.

OK, I was just wondering since their website says they can run vSTs on a mac. I thought you had to have some type of AU wrapper to do that.
 
iirc the mackie version is pci only (mackie made the uad-1 first, then sold the product line to ua), so make sure that your dual core mac can use it (i.e. accept regular pci cards).

by all accounts the uad plugins sound great.

Koj, by the way, how can I check to see if the Mackie card is compatable with my mac? There's a used one on ebay for sale right now, but I have no idea who to call to find out. Any wisdom there?
 
I have been using 2 uad cards for years and I love them, cant beat them. Now if you want to argue the uad cards against the real deals, la2a ,1176, yeah they may sound a bit better. And that also may be a placebo effext on me. I have 2 1176's, but for the price, uad is best buy on the market. And yes their support is great.
 
Koj, by the way, how can I check to see if the Mackie card is compatable with my mac? There's a used one on ebay for sale right now, but I have no idea who to call to find out. Any wisdom there?
just check to see what kind of slots it has (if any-- if you have a mac mini like me or an imac (don't have one, but i'm pretty sure there's no pci/pci-e slots on those :)), you're out of luck). all i meant is that the mackie version was pci and if you computer only has pci-e slots, you can't use it. i guess check your manual or the specs online.
 
just check to see what kind of slots it has (if any-- if you have a mac mini like me or an imac (don't have one, but i'm pretty sure there's no pci/pci-e slots on those :)), you're out of luck). all i meant is that the mackie version was pci and if you computer only has pci-e slots, you can't use it. i guess check your manual or the specs online.

No PCI slots. You were right. I'm really bummed right now. Back to the drawing board.
 
My friend had a UA-1 card in his setup, before he bought his mac.
I thought it sounded great, the compressors and eq`s are brilliant.
same goes for the delays, and verbs
 
well, there are lots of native solutions out there and other outboard dsp's-- tci powercore, ssl duende/duende mini and focusrite liquid mix. apparently liquid mix has gotten much better with the new version (2.x) of the software. if you have an ilok, i definitely think it's worth demoing the urs classic console strip pro plug and some of their other stuff.
Thanks for all your help. I'll check into it for sure.
 
I use major tom, event horizon and schope from those plugins a lot

If you are looking for a character eq, then the vibe eq on that page, or one of the URS ones would be great I think.

My eq needs are usually more surgical, and just a lot of narrow cuts, so just about any eq works for me, but for that "magic" then you gotta go looking for a good character one.

The 1973 at the stillwell page is an RBJ design, but has preset bandstops
 
I use major tom, event horizon and schope from those plugins a lot

If you are looking for a character eq, then the vibe eq on that page, or one of the URS ones would be great I think.

My eq needs are usually more surgical, and just a lot of narrow cuts, so just about any eq works for me, but for that "magic" then you gotta go looking for a good character one.

The 1973 at the stillwell page is an RBJ design, but has preset bandstops

If I decide to get something like Duende, can I still use the Stillwell AU's as well? Will they work together? I'm assuming so, but don't know for sure.
 
theyll still work. Not all of the schwa plugs have gone au yet, but they will soon
 
If I decide to get something like Duende, can I still use the Stillwell AU's as well? Will they work together? I'm assuming so, but don't know for sure.

Ahh, Duende. :D That unit is at the top of my list. I have been told that it has more of an "outboard" sound than any other plug in. It is just not as versatile as the UAD-1 plugs ins. I was planning on the PCIe version, but you guys got me to thinking more long term. I just upgraded my PC, but that is such an investment, I am starting to think I want to go with the FW version. You never know what curve balls the PC industry will throw at you next.
 
well, it's not just that the dsp chips they use are a bit antiquated, but also the methods of interfacing-- pci, pci-e, and cardbus... it may not be a problem now, but it may be a problem on your next computer.

PCI express is antiquated? I thought it is pretty standard and new enough that it will be for quite some time. I also thought the general consensus is that it's a bit better than firewire?
 
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