Real Love - take two

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Spent the day re-recording this with multitracks. Just need Mike to add some bass guitar to finalize. I think it turned out pretty good so far - let me know what you think.


Real Love

Copyright - Gerry Steele 20080311

Well the word’s getting out yeah it’s all over town
They’re talking bout the guy you’ve been hanging ‘round
He’s playing you for a fool and lord I don’t know why

While you’re at home thinking that he rocks your world
He’s out at night messing with all the girls
And when you find out the truth it’s gonna make you cry

CHORUS
Run into my arms, and let me show you what a real love can be
I’m the one who loves you, got to tell you girl you’re everything to me
Don’t listen to his lies, he’ll only break your heart in two
You’ve got to see through his disguise, we can make it me and you
He don’t love you baby, you’ll only get a real love from me

Like a favorite song he’ll only play for a while
Yeah I know it ain’t right but girl that’s just his style
If you keep holding on, he’s gonna bring you pain

When he get’s what he wants won’t have to look too far
To find the shattered pieces of your broken heart
It’s never been hard for him to throw good love away

CHORUS
Run into my arms, and let me show you what a real love can be
I’m the one who loves you, got to tell you girl you’re everything to me
Don’t listen to his lies, he’ll only break your heart in two
You’ve got to see through his disguise, we can make it me and you
He don’t love you baby, you’ll only get a real love from me

BRIDGE
My love it goes beyond infatuation
In my heart I know my love is true
Until we pass into another lifetime
I see my world as being part of you


(BREAK)

BRIDGE
My love it goes beyond infatuation
In my heart I know my love is true
Until we pass into another lifetime
I see my world as being part of you

CHORUS
Run into my arms, and let me show you what a real love can be
I’m the one who loves you, got to tell you girl you’re everything to me
Don’t listen to his lies, he’ll only break your heart in two
You’ve got to see through his disguise, we can make it me and you
He don’t love you baby, you’ll only get a real love from me
He don’t love you baby, you’ll only get a real love from me

:D:):D:)
 
Gerry,
A superb rework. The meatier guitar works perfectly. The tags at the end of the lines are great.
The only thig I think needs work is the break. Either more volume across it or a stinging solo - the bluesey tags through out did build up an expectation for a stinger but you don't have to meet expectations.
Nice resolution at the end too.
I can't wait for Mike to add his bass fairy dust.
 
I missed the first version, Gerry, but this one is pretty darned cool. Claptonesque vocals and some nice guitar, but I wish it was a bit louder so I could sink my teeth into it as Eric does.

Lyrics are very good. I'm a student of lyrics and I don't find myself saying that too often. Love the line that you won't have to look far for the pieces of your broken heart. Man, that line just screams the wisdom of an older man.

This is pretty well finished, except for the missing bass IMO. One minor nit, the first harmony line in the first chorus fights a tiny bit. That ain't an easy one to ssing and it's right at the top of your range. Nice to have to punch it sometimes, but you might look for a lower harmony, perhaps a 3 down.

But it's nothing major. Good song. Well done. Put a fork in it. :D
 
Thanks for listening Ray and Xeries....

rayc said:
The only thing I think needs work is the break.
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Agreed - the break is well, sparse...I need to play around with this and see if I can create something simple but memorable, as I like to be able to recreate the solos live... I may redo the whole thing tags included as I tend to find one continuous lead easier than punching in parts.

Xeries said:
I wish it was a bit louder so I could sink my teeth into it as Eric does.
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When I remix with additions I shall up the guitar a touch.
Love the line that you won't have to look far for the pieces of your broken heart.
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I thought that was a definite keeper line too...
 
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I concur with Ray and Xerxes comments. I really love the vibe of this song. The end line licks are very good so I am actually a bit disappointed with the lead work in the break. You really need to think about something that is going to build the dynamic more for the final Ch.

I am never sure about repeating anything but the Ch and I think the rpt bridge runs a risk of de-energising the song not propelling it forward as a C-section should. My instinct would be to go bridge then break and loose the rpt bridge.

The Ch is a great hook and I would dispense with Vs 3 and get straight back to it! Vs 3 is a good metaphor, but it is followed by an excellent Vs 4 with that ‘broken heart pieces’ line (so good), which reiterates Vs 3, making it a bit redundant? Could you work the ‘favourite song’ metaphor back into Vs 1 or 2?

When I hear the Ch – I hear ‘Run it to my arms’ and ‘Real love’ as the lyric/melody hook and in MHO deserves to be repeated. I think the 3 and 4 line of the Ch are wordy, but are well supported by the progression and have no difficulty getting them, but a less wordy line 1, 2 and 5 might work.

Something like:

Run into my arms, (rpt. melody) Run into my arms, I’ll show you real love
Run into my arms, girl you’ve got to know that I’m the real one
Don’t listen to his lies, he’ll only break your heart in two
You’ve got to see through his disguise, we can make it me and you
Run into my arms, run and you’ll get real love

Regardless of above critic it is a strong pieces of work that is already in my head after a few listens. You’ve have got such natural phrasing and clarity to your voice that I wouldn’t be afraid of picking the tempo up a bit. Experiment I try is to see how fast a song will go without losing clarity or charater.

HTH

Burt
 
Whatmysay said:
I concur with Ray and Xerxes comments. I really love the vibe of this song. The end line licks are very good so I am actually a bit disappointed with the lead work in the break. You really need to think about something that is going to build the dynamic more for the final Ch.

I am never sure about repeating anything but the Ch and I think the rpt bridge runs a risk of de-energising the song not propelling it forward as a C-section should. My instinct would be to go bridge then break and loose the rpt bridge.

The Ch is a great hook and I would dispense with Vs 3 and get straight back to it! Vs 3 is a good metaphor, but it is followed by an excellent Vs 4 with that ‘broken heart pieces’ line (so good), which reiterates Vs 3, making it a bit redundant? Could you work the ‘favourite song’ metaphor back into Vs 1 or 2?

When I hear the Ch – I hear ‘Run it to my arms’ and ‘Real love’ as the lyric/melody hook and in MHO deserves to be repeated. I think the 3 and 4 line of the Ch are wordy, but are well supported by the progression and have no difficulty getting them, but a less wordy line 1, 2 and 5 might work.

Something like:

Run into my arms, (rpt. melody) Run into my arms, I’ll show you real love
Run into my arms, girl you’ve got to know that I’m the real one
Don’t listen to his lies, he’ll only break your heart in two
You’ve got to see through his disguise, we can make it me and you
Run into my arms, run and you’ll get real love

Regardless of above critic it is a strong pieces of work that is already in my head after a few listens. You’ve have got such natural phrasing and clarity to your voice that I wouldn’t be afraid of picking the tempo up a bit. Experiment I try is to see how fast a song will go without losing clarity or charater.

HTH

Burt
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Burt - Thanks for the listen and the excellent comments.
- You're the second person to suggest dropping the second bridge.
- another vote to improve the solo so I'm putting it on my to-do list
- the changes to the verses and chorus are good suggestion too; I'll look into those also.

:D
 
Damn...damn...damn...:D


Sounds great Gerry!!!


The inflections used in how you sing this and the sweet talking guitar come together for emotional perfection of a love song...and those are some of the most brilliant lyrics I've heard in a while..:cool:
 
I assume this'll go to the MP3 clinic when you're happy with the structure- there's a dire need for nonmetal there at present.
That LP is sure gonna be a classic.
 
Thanks Nicole, True and Ray, I will post this in the MP3 clinic once I get some bass on it and add to the solo section. :)
 
Went to record a new solo and found the tape had a big section of static in the first chorus when palying it back. I'm not sure how that came about because it was fine when I first mixed it down last week. Something must have happened when I was re-recording. In any event, I ended up recording everything over again and so far it seems static free. I addressed the items that came up:
- got the harmonies a little tighter
- added some lead guitar to the break section
- raised the level of the lead in the background
I still have to get Mike to put some bass down to complete the whole thing. Any comments on the new version would be appreciated....:D

Same link but I'll put it here for you:

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6359716
 
Yeah it needs bass but.....

.....this is a great tune. This version is tighter in every respect from the fills to the harmonies. Nice job.;)
 
I second Dave - what a difference some static can make - great work
 
Thanks Burt and Dave. Since I can't figure out where/when the static came from, I nervous about playing the tape. Paranoia I guess as it never happened before.... I will have run it to several times probably to get bass recorded and mixing done. Hopefully I won't lose any more material...:(
 
ido1957 said:
Thanks Burt and Dave. Since I can't figure out where/when the static came from, I nervous about playing the tape. Paranoia I guess as it never happened before.... I will have run it to several times probably to get bass recorded and mixing done. Hopefully I won't lose any more material...:(
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Can you bouncedown to digital just for pieces of mind?

How olds the tape? Dust in the heads? Rec head out of line? I wouldn't play it till I check all of that out - but you possible already have? What machine and format are you using - not that I know much, but post it in the analogue forum- someone might have a clue?
 
I like it!
Its got a good groove, though a little metallic sounding for me (I don't know the professional terminology maybe the bass you want to add will work that out for you.
 
Whatmysay said:
Can you bouncedown to digital just for pieces of mind?

How olds the tape? Dust in the heads? Rec head out of line? I wouldn't play it till I check all of that out - but you possible already have? What machine and format are you using - not that I know much, but post it in the analogue forum- someone might have a clue?
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Tape is fairly new - Sept of last year - has three other songs on it. Machine was serviced a couple years ago to fix a channel problem. It might have all of 150 hours on the heads. Not sure about alignment though.

I'm using an LX ADAT Tape machine. I can download throughout lightpipe to Alesis I/O16 which my friend has then into Sonar. I only have about four master tapes so it would take about 8 hours to download everything and burn it to DVD. I'll talk to him about it and see if we can do it soon as a backup.

Lori said:
I like it!
Its got a good groove, though a little metallic sounding for me (I don't know the professional terminology maybe the bass you want to add will work that out for you.
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Thanks Lori - are you talking about the distorted guitar or just the tone in general? You're right about the bass though - it usually changes the mix a lot when added.
 
Here are some quick comments

1 I listened to Up-fiddler's track a while ago and now this one, and both have a lo-fi quality to them, which I think is due to MP3 conversion, or else something wierd is happening when I stream stuff. For example, on this track the vocals sound very megaphoney.

2 Overall, the track reminds me of something that Huey Lewis would do (e.g. power of love).

3 The track moves along well, with good strong guitars. However, the guitars tend to dominate, and I wouldn't mind hearing them pushed back a bit.

4 I seem to recall that you were waiting for the addition of bass? It certainly needs a bottom end to balance the sonic landscape. I would like to hear the drums up as well.

Overall, it's not a bad track, but a bit of spring cleaning is in order.
 
gecko zzed said:
Here are some quick comments

1 I listened to Up-fiddler's track a while ago and now this one, and both have a lo-fi quality to them, which I think is due to MP3 conversion, or else something wierd is happening when I stream stuff. For example, on this track the vocals sound very megaphoney.

2 Overall, the track reminds me of something that Huey Lewis would do (e.g. power of love).

3 The track moves along well, with good strong guitars. However, the guitars tend to dominate, and I wouldn't mind hearing them pushed back a bit.

4 I seem to recall that you were waiting for the addition of bass? It certainly needs a bottom end to balance the sonic landscape. I would like to hear the drums up as well.

Overall, it's not a bad track, but a bit of spring cleaning is in order.
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Thanks for the listen GZ - I'm hoping to get some bass guitar recorded this weekend. I'll keep your comments about the guitars/drums in mind - I think I might ride the faders a bit more on them...:D
 
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