MXL v67g or Studio Projects-C1

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I've been listening to clips of the v67g and comparing them to other mics in it's price range at http://www.thelisteningsessions.com

I think the v67g sounds good, but compared to the Studio Projects C1, it didn't sound as full.
I record mostly acoustic guitar and dude vox. I would appreciate any opinions of which one I should consider getting. Thanks!
 
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Hey neighbor! So, those are very different mics you're comparing. The C1 is famous for being very hyped in the upper mids, where the V67 is known for just the opposite, being a much flatter, almost dark mic. Much has been written about both, so search away. I would guess the C1 would sound better on acoustic guitar. On vox, really depends on the singer and the sound you're after.
 
Hey man,
good to hear from you and thanks for the help!

Lots of people don't seem to think the C1 is good on male vox.
Lots of the stuff I do is falsetto.
Does that change anything?
 
woah
thanks a lot man,
the HM-1 sounds amazing,
I like it the most
 
Pick a mic in your price range, one won't be better than the other, just different really.

Buy the mic.

USE IT. EXPERIMENT.

Sure, you will probably make some pretty bad recordings, (I know I did), but your experience that you gather will be invaluable.

Don't let any one come and tell you that one of these mics are better than the other. They are all decent. They probably won't outshine mics in the upper echelon, but they might for certain sources, but you can definitely learn on any of them.

Good recordings come from an experienced engineer. A good engineer can make a great recording with whatever he's got. (he could perhaps make a slightly better recording with better gear) A bad, engineer can make the best equipment sound like it couldn't cost more than $20.

Take the time, learn the skills. Remember, though, it's always about the song. Never let anything let that get away from you. It's always about the song.
 
you should get a C1 cuz it's just like a U87. Here's a quote from the Studioprojects website
No, we are not a German mic, but we sure do sound like those $3,000.00 models.

See they said it's the best so it must be
 
you should get a C1 cuz it's just like a U87. Here's a quote from the Studioprojects website

See they said it's the best so it must be

Uh... Yeah... Sure... What ever makes you happy at night!

Honestly one mic that could make me happy on 99% of all sources is a DPA 4090. $400 or so for a super high quality, really accurate, yet musical, small diaphragm condenser mic.

On the right applications it's a killer vocal/drum/acoustic guitar/electric guitar/random percussion/strings/piano/mandolin/room mic. (honestly I've used mine on all of those apps)

>>AG
 
The Listening sessions were kind of a joke.

Take it for the comic value that it contains, but don't make any actual decisions based on it. :D

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The Listening sessions were kind of a joke.

Take it for the comic value that it contains, but don't make any actual decisions based on it. :D

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I'd imagine that the methodology has flaws (you can always find flaws with these kinds of things). Unless you could have a bunch of different microphones occupying the exact same physical space in relation to the source you were recording, I would imagine that it's really hard to make a comparison recordings that weren't effected by mic placement, not to mention inconsistencies between the preamp channels, converter channels and even mic cables. Plus you would have to account for differences in gain/sensitivity between the mics.

It gives some frame of reference though for the differences between mics, though I don't think anyone could take what they hear there and then translate it to their own use because of differences in the recorded sources, acoustic environment and countless other things though. I would agree with your warning to not make decisions based on it Chessrock because of that, if nothing else.

I'm honestly curious though-- what is the comical aspect of this endeavor? It seems reasonably well intentioned, though I'm sure there is a commerical/business enterprise aspect to it.
 
At this point, you're gonna be happy/unhappy with just about any mic you choose in this price range. Whether it works great for you is gonna be a crap shoot. If you can buy them both, try them for a while, and then sell the one (you didn't like) on eBay, that may be the best way to go. I saw a V67 on the dallas craigs list today for $65.
 
Harvey- have you tried the MCA SP-1's? Jim Williams (the Audio Upgrades guy) has made very positive comments about them and Terry Setters, the guy who designed Chameleon Labs TS-1 and TS-2 tube mics wrote a very positive review of them in TapeOp. I believe they are manufactured by MXL. You can get them for $40 each or a non-matched pair for $70!
I just got a couple of them with upgraded capacitors (not the full Jim Williams mod though), but I haven't had a chance to really try them out yet.
Based on some praise by some pretty credible folks, these might be a great deal for home recordists (they even have gotten a positive nod from Chessrock! :eek:)
 
I've heard the same thing about them, but I haven't tried them.
 
I'm honestly curious though-- what is the comical aspect of this endeavor? It seems reasonably well intentioned, though I'm sure there is a commerical/business enterprise aspect to it.

It didn't seem like there was much, if any, effort made to ensure any level of consistency between takes ... or that the 'between take' variables were accounted for. Not to mention that Dan Richards is just kind of a weenie, who I'm sure has a hard enough time tying his shoes properly. :D

Didn't get the sense that the talent were taking it very seriously, and that's pretty important if you want this thing to work. After listening enough times, do you even get the feeling that all of the parties involved were even sober throughout the entire session? :D I get the feeling that what started out as a serious endeavor kind of "got away" from them as it went on, if you catch my drift.

If you want to hear some valuable comparisons, I would spring for the 3D audio thingies. And I realize I sound like a broken record on this, but Harvey kinda' nailed it:

Buy more than one mic at a time, and buy used. Horse around with them for a week or two, and sell the one you like less. If you avsolutely HAVE to have a new one ... then sell both of them, and buy a new version of the one you liked better of the two.

If you're not a complete dolt, you shouldn't lose any money going this route. Don't use the excuse that you can't afford to buy more than one mic at a time. If that is a legitimate excuse ... then I'm afraid you've got much bigger issues going on in your life to concerning yourself with microphones and recording or even wasting your time on this board. I also ain't buyin' the excuse that Craigslist and/or ebay are too much of a hassle, because anyone with more than a 6th grade education should be able to wrap their head around the concept ... or should at least have access to a 6th grader who could help them with it.

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If you're not a complete dolt, you shouldn't lose any money going this route. Don't use the excuse that you can't afford to buy more than one mic at a time. If that is a legitimate excuse ... then I'm afraid you've got much bigger issues going on in your life to concerning yourself with microphones and recording or even wasting your time on this board. I also ain't buyin' the excuse that Craigslist and/or ebay are too much of a hassle, because anyone with more than a 6th grade education should be able to wrap their head around the concept ... or should at least have access to a 6th grader who could help them with it.

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Man... were you hugged enough and did you feel loved as a child? That's what I mean by "tantrum" (yeah it's from a different thread-- please bear with). Who's making those excuses?
 
Who's making those excuses?

Read these threads long enough, and you'll read every excuse there is. You're obviously the type who's mama sat around and told him how wonderful he was while massaging his toes. :D Which is totally cool by me, but if you're going to get your panties in a wad over a dumb post in the mic forum (of a really dumb message board), then your padded upbringing may have effected you negatively.

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Read these threads long enough, and you'll read every excuse there is. You're obviously the type who's mama sat around and told him how wonderful he was while massaging his toes. :D Which is totally cool by me, but if you're going to get your panties in a wad over a dumb post in the mic forum (of a really dumb message board), then your padded upbringing may have effected you negatively.

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Apparently I struck another nerve-- sorry dude.
Try this-- look in a mirror and say "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darnit, people like me"
Even if it's not true :)
 
ive had a v67 and a v67g and they both sound fizzy to me

extra jizz in the upper-midrange

my v63m sounds much fuller and more natural

all those are mxl brand mics of course

i say get 3 mics and try them out

it seems silly to trust online sample recordings
 
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