The song is about 30 years old and I'm sure the band no longer exists so I doubt any kids are listening to that. But it made it to youtube, so I guess white supremacy is alive and well.
Is there any song subject matter that you find hard to listen to ?
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The song is about 30 years old and I'm sure the band no longer exists so I doubt any kids are listening to that. But it made it to youtube, so I guess white supremacy is alive and well.
dragonworks
Banned
"the heat was hot", that is pretty hard to listen to.
grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
Isn't that about disliking a genre as opposed to being uncomfortable with the subject matter of some songs ?
VomitHatSteve
Hat STYLE. Not contents.
That's true. Rap can cover a pretty wide gamut of topics much like every other genre.
From DC Talk's "rapping is fun/believe in Jesus".
To Death Grips' "sex, death, and pirates"
To Mega Ran's "video games are awesome!"
To Jay Z's "sell drugs and mock cops"
I've talked to a lot of people who conflate all rap into "gangsta rap" though. There's this weird idea that somehow "Rapper's Delight" and "Same Love" are completely forgotten as soon as the word "rap" is said.
From DC Talk's "rapping is fun/believe in Jesus".
To Death Grips' "sex, death, and pirates"
To Mega Ran's "video games are awesome!"
To Jay Z's "sell drugs and mock cops"
I've talked to a lot of people who conflate all rap into "gangsta rap" though. There's this weird idea that somehow "Rapper's Delight" and "Same Love" are completely forgotten as soon as the word "rap" is said.
grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
That though, is primarily a hindsight conclusion. As said earlier, many of the people recording those songs in that period really believed. As did their listeners.
Many genuinely thought that the old world order which had an ostensibly 'christian' basis {highly arguable in my view, but I can dig why many felt that way} was, to quote Shakespeare, "ripe for a shaking." And looking at the evidence, you can hardly blame them. Two world wars, slavery, colonialism, massive racism and inequality, the explosion of the atom bomb on two cities of civilians, a civil rights movement being opposed at every turn by many in leadership positions.......to name but a few.
It's been my experience and observation that much of the criticism and negativity aimed at the attempts to change things during the 1960s almost exclusively ignores the world that led up to it.
That's an age thing Jimi !
Personally, I think the years 1960~62 were the worst in popular music history. There was definitely something bubbling under the surface {Motown inspiring soul, Beatles morphing into Britpop, jazz taking on rock elements, the folk revival soon to incorporate electrics etc} but it would be a while before these came smashing through. I'm not saying everything then was lame but the initial wham had gone out of rock'n'roll and as Jerry Lee Lewis put it, "Bobby Rydel, Bobby Darin, Bobby Vee, Bobby Vinton....there was nothing on the scene but Bobbies !"
I'm so glad I was born in early '63 so I came along just as music started to get really good !!
I find artists that weren't christians but who explored spiritual and religious themes, questions and ideas from the 60s and early 70s fascinating. Most of those that were commenting in this way had had christian~"ish" or Jewish upbringings and had no other frame of reference when they found themselves opened up by marijuana and LSD. Allied to their newfound feelings of social responsibility, much of what came out in that period and beyond did dovetail nicely with Christianity.
By the same token, much of it didn't. I remember some years ago, a friend of mine describing socialism as "Christianity but without God in it."
Slightly off topic, I was reminded recently of the explosion, internet led primarily, of thousands of obscure records from the late 60s and early 70s, some of which were tax dodge albums, by loads of obscure artists that barely sold 200 copies or whatever. That was actually how I got into many of the obscure artists I listen to now, because these record review sites were springing up talking about these records. Private/"vanity" pressings, they call them.
Anyway, hundreds of them were christian {in some way, shape or form} ones, all the more interesting because they were made at a time of huge importance in rock history and yet it's a story of happenings that is virtually untold in the wider scheme of the story of popular music. In a way, it reminds me of the story of Medgar Evers, the civil rights activist who was murdered in 1963, a few months before JFK. For many people in the UK looking at America in the 60s, you'd hear about the assassinations of JFK, his brother Bobby, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King.....but not Medgar Evers, even though he was the first.
Anyway, some of these christian records were being sold for ridiculous prices. I saw "Moon blood" by Fraction going for $1000, "Rainbow Promise" by the legendary band of the same name going for $800, "Some other morning" by Cair Paravel going for over $2000, "Never thought I'd see the day" by Paradise Square for over $3000.......
They're all quite good, but not that good !
But they were super rare, because hardly anyone bought them !
chuckduffy
Well-known member
Any song that even so much as remotely hints at the progression of Pachelbel's Canon, and there are thousands of them with new ones coming out every day in every genre. Makes me physically ill.
citizen77
New member
That is brilliant. I must use it.
citizen77
New member
You, of course, have heard the Pachelbel Rant right? Pachelbel Rant - YouTube
But a chord progression isn't really a subject matter... or it is anyone singing about Pachelbel?!?
chuckduffy
Well-known member
Yes, I've heard the rant
I realize that I was off topic, but the thread had already digressed with all the I hate rap, I hate cc, I hate new country stuff..
Anyway - I'll play along. As much as I like having sex, I really don't find songs about the literal act of having sex all that interesting....
rayc
retroreprobate
Nick Lowe wrote & Elvis Costello sand a fav hippy, peace loving', tree huggin' warm , wet feeling song...
I saw Sir Cliff once - def. a low point musically AND he turned it into a recruitment session. When he sang "Why does the devil have to have all the good music?" I answered, "...because you do such damage to it, pratt!"
But then again I wore velvet flares big enough to cover my shoes before discovering the Damned in 1977.
Robert Wyatt's Shipbuilding, Billy Bragg's 70's - mid 80's output, Tom Robinson Band all big hippy messages in a variety of incense.
Plus I saw Marley & the Wailers on 2 consecutive nights in 78 - I need a tree to cuddle obviously.
I saw Sir Cliff once - def. a low point musically AND he turned it into a recruitment session. When he sang "Why does the devil have to have all the good music?" I answered, "...because you do such damage to it, pratt!"
But then again I wore velvet flares big enough to cover my shoes before discovering the Damned in 1977.
Robert Wyatt's Shipbuilding, Billy Bragg's 70's - mid 80's output, Tom Robinson Band all big hippy messages in a variety of incense.
Plus I saw Marley & the Wailers on 2 consecutive nights in 78 - I need a tree to cuddle obviously.
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rayc
retroreprobate
rayc
retroreprobate
Almost all of the above are leftist rants to some degree or other and I love each of them whether they be about domestic violence, war mongering, dog eat dog society, personal sexuality, violence against one's own youth, pseudo martial law Thatcherism, the role of values in an upbringing or anything Richard hell cared to spit in our faces...