your recording with the SM57

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Does anyone in here have an mp3(etc) you recorded VOCALS with using a shure SM57 that you would be willing to post in here?

I would love to take a listen to this mic..


ANYONE? I'd appreciate it.
 
I have a quick clip of a recording done with a 57. Let me check with the song writer to make sure its ok to post it. :)

Take care,
Chris
 
Hats off to M. Kalani Souza of Sugah Daddy (http://www.sugahdaddy.com/) for allowing me to post our work. You may have run into these guys, Lyricist- they're in Hawai'i. Worth checking out if you haven't- really cool guys and great music.

http://www.chrisshaeffer.com/drafts/sm57.html

Its a 25 second clip of the first verse as I'm at home on s-l-o-w dialup and didn't want to upload the whole song. Enough to give you an idea of what the 57 sounds like.

The whole song, minus the DI'd bass, was recorded with a 57 if I recall. It was quick and dirty work as we didn't have a whole lot of time to get it down- all first takes for the most part. Fun way of working. :) Kalani and I never seem to have much time to work so the songs go down fast!

Take care,
Chris
 
Thanks a lot chris.


Doesnt sound bad at all. But that could have something to do with the "soundcard" right?

(Soundcard?..dont know the correct name...)



Maybe I should just get this mic.

I mean.. i read you can record keys with the 57 too. And i need to record keys and vocals.

i dont need anything to be all professional, but decent

(This IS a 'dynamic' mic right? so it wont pick up as much BG noise...)
 
lyricist said:
i dont need anything to be all professional, but decent

(This IS a 'dynamic' mic right? so it wont pick up as much BG noise...)
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Yeah, it's a dynamic mic. It's kinda become the standard "utility" mic, decent on everything, not really great for much (except maybe guitar cab). It's a solid mic to start with though. Check out the Sennheiser e835 (or anything in that line e825, e845), damn stiff competition to the SM57/58, I personally prefer the sennheiser mics.
 
It doesn't sound bad- I was actually *very* surprised when we laid his vocal track with it. The ADAT XT-20 may be a bit old, but its convertors (the equivalent of a soundcard in this case) are better than I expected.

How the 57 sounds greatly depends on the preamp its going through. I've used it with my old Tascam Porta Two 4-track and between the cassette and the cheap pre it sounded horrid. Through the pres on the Soundtracs board and the convertors on the ADAT its much better than I thought it would be. Kalani's got a very rich, full voice though and that helps a lot.

Its a good mic. Yup, its a dynamic so its much less sensative than a condensor and tends to pick up only what's close to it and its easier to avoid picking up background noise. There are many better mics out there, but the 57 is relatively cheap and will grow with your setup. I think its a good all-around choice for a first mic, but it won't necessarily sound as good as the recording I posted with out decent pres to go along with it.

Take care,
Chris
 
I see. thanks you two


Well im pretty sure i'll be getting the firebox im not sure how "decent" that is.

it seems not too cheap and crap, but not expensive and "OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!"

so I figured it should be pretty good for the cost.



Maybe the whole, "Condenser mics pic up a lot" thing i am overexagerrating. Or maybe not. In my mind i need a totally SOUNDLESS room to use it in. not even a clock ticking. am i exaggerating the room needs?


Maybe i should just get the sm57 first and later on i can get another one. i just dont want to pay about 100 for the shure and want another one and never use the shure again


ps- on zzounds it says, "New, SM57 LC, Without Cable" What cable do i need to purchase to use this mic?


Sorry for sounding like an idiot! I've just been going to the link in the sticky thread for awhile and looking up the different mics mentioned but it doesnt go much into detail so i still have questions
 
Certainly don't have any clocks ticking!!!!!!! :eek:

You need an XLR cable, commonly just called a mic lead. Male XLR on one end, female on the other. If I have to explain what makes them male and female, you're not old enough to own a microphone!!!! :D:D

You're a girl, right? I'd still be very tempted to get something with some high-end response ... makes even more difference on higher voices ... Sennheiser E835 and SP B1 are your friends. :)
 
lyricist said:
Maybe i should just get the sm57 first and later on i can get another one. i just dont want to pay about 100 for the shure and want another one and never use the shure again
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Buy it used. You'll be able to sell it for as much as you paid for it if you ever decide you want to get rid of it.
 
noisedude said:
Certainly don't have any clocks ticking!!!!!!! :eek:
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Oh gosh.. This is too much work

You're a girl, right? I'd still be very tempted to get something with some high-end response ... makes even more difference on higher voices ... Sennheiser E835 and SP B1 are your friends. :)
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Gahh

Maybe I should just get both. I could always sell them.

Tee f'n hee.



Maybe there is someting small and INEXPENSIVE icould do to block out any little noise while using the b1.
 
It sounds like you don't wanna spend too much on acoustic treatment and stuff, which is alright especially cause you are just starting. your best bet for using a condenser mic without picking up too much background noise is to use a basement room if available, if not then pick a room with no windows. Don't let the mic get close to any electoronic devices that are turned on(computer monitor, fride/freezer, whatever). Also, don't record when something noisy is happening in your house. You will proabably not have any "background noise" issue when setting up like this.

Another method for starting out, for vocals anyways, would be to record in your bathroom. You get a cool reverb effect(sounds alright for a newb) and you will get minimal noise as long as you dont have noisy pipes.


Simon
 
There's nothing wrong with a good 'ol SM57. As the old saying goes, "If you can't get a good sounding recording with just '57s, you won't be able to do it with better mic's either." Anyway, considering that new 57's go for $89, and you'll have it forever, it's a pretty good buy.

Cheers,
Zach
 
2lim said:
It sounds like you don't wanna spend too much on acoustic treatment and stuff, which is alright especially cause you are just starting. your best bet for using a condenser mic without picking up too much background noise is to use a basement room if available, if not then pick a room with no windows. Don't let the mic get close to any electoronic devices that are turned on(computer monitor, fride/freezer, whatever). Also, don't record when something noisy is happening in your house. You will proabably not have any "background noise" issue when setting up like this.

Another method for starting out, for vocals anyways, would be to record in your bathroom. You get a cool reverb effect(sounds alright for a newb) and you will get minimal noise as long as you dont have noisy pipes.


Simon
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can you record vocals in a closet?
 
In my opinion, go for a mix of SM57s and SM58s there great mics for live and recording that have unbeleivable clarity and sound quality for their price.
 
milb9819 said:
In my opinion, go for a mix of SM57s and SM58s there great mics for live and recording that have unbeleivable clarity and sound quality for their price.
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I'm not really sure anyone would say that they have unbelievable clarity and mean it in a good way. :)
 
lyricist said:
can you record vocals in a closet?
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Yeah. You don't have to shut yourself INTO the closet- its easy enough to just put the mic in there and sing into the closet (and mic).

The doorway helps isolate the mic from sounds in the room and coming in from outside while the clothes and such in the closet help deaden any odd reflections back into the mic. So, ideally, all you get on the recording is what you want: your voice.

Take care,
Chris
 
lyricist said:
can you record vocals in a closet?
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Depends on the reflections of the closet. Generally, a closet is not the best place. If it's fairly dead, it might be okay. Doesn't hurt to give it a try.

Maybe try walking around your room speaking loudly and find the spot with the least reverb and reflections. That's the place to record vocals.
 
noisedude said:
I'm not really sure anyone would say that they have unbelievable clarity and mean it in a good way. :)
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Yes but you gotta agree there good mics either way :D
 
milb9819 said:
Yes but you gotta agree there good mics either way :D
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They're good but there's nothing that makes them 'unbelievable' for the price. I've heard rumours that they come alive when you own an extremely expensive pre, but most people here are buying them for use with Behringer, Yamaha, Mackie, M-Audio, ART and Presonus pres! (like me :))
 
Thanks chris

i know its easy for you to answer ha ha but thanks alot. you probably don't remember but you helped me with so many questions ive had since ive been here. :)
 
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