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Along the same line, go check out the Lampifier mic ad thread in the mic forum. Quick, before it's gone. Automated processing in the mic makes you sound professional.
 
my gawd we have goontracks EZwillis...an automated forum member with presets such as "slag the n00b", "wots my alias", and "look what I plugged my bass into" :D
 
Along the same line, go check out the Lampifier mic ad thread in the mic forum. Quick, before it's gone. Automated processing in the mic makes you sound professional.

Yeah kinda cool! I would like to hear one....Just has a gate and a compressor with adjustable release.
Now I could find made in USA anywhere, I wounder if they are made in China?
Dam now all these new toys to play with :D



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We like to think mixing is an art, etc., but the object of most mixes is to create a track that sounds generally homogeneous to the best examples of its genre. 95% of creating a good mix is essentially following commonly accepted rules for how each instrument should fit in a mix.

Of course it helps if the tracking was done properly. But given that the method of analyzing individual tracks for their sonic character and then processing them appropriately is a fairly predictable process, given enough effort an expert system could be coded to outmix anyone who is not an expert themself. Do we really think mixing is harder than chess?

Har-Bal at the track level, if you like--where it could be far more effective. It has to be more than a series of presets; it would need to analyze the track content and then select effects/EQ/dynamics settings based upon that information and the selected style. That's a step further than Toontrack has gone.

If we harken back to the days of the Public Mix Contests, a "faders up" mix always placed above the bottom third. Food for thought . . .
 
Along the same line, go check out the Lampifier mic ad thread in the mic forum. Quick, before it's gone. Automated processing in the mic makes you sound professional.

I don't see it any more..... it's gone, gone, gone.



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We like to think mixing is an art, etc., but the object of most mixes is to create a track that sounds generally homogeneous to the best examples of its genre. 95% of creating a good mix is essentially following commonly accepted rules for how each instrument should fit in a mix.
No.

Maybe that is what song writers and band members do when they record themselves.

Maybe that is what some guy who spends a few thousand on sound equipment does.




That is not what a mixing engineer does.

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I use my own creative talent to do as much or as little to a mix as is required to take it where the producer's vision guides it. (Always easier if I'm also the producer. :D)
 
But given that the method of analyzing individual tracks for their sonic character and then processing them appropriately is a fairly predictable process,
Predictable? Just how boring was the tracking?
given enough effort an expert system could be coded to outmix anyone who is not an expert themself.
What is the use in that? Yeah, the computer will be able to mix better than the kid down the street with a stolen Pro Tools crack. I'll be sure to not include either of them in my next project.
Do we really think mixing is harder than chess?
Yes. :)

And even if you argue that it is not, one is computational and the other is creative. Chess has one scenario where you win. There may be millions or hundreds of millions of ways to reach that scenario, but checkmate is checkmate. A song could have countless different mixes that are all equally "right". So...what one of those countless "right" outcomes does a person choose? Good thing we can be creative!

Hell, some mixing outcomes could sound right to half of the people and wrong to the other half and be BETTER for the song than a mix everybody likes. Some mixes might turn off a million people and enthrall 100 people but screw those million, the song wasn't for them and they don't get it anyway.

And how can there be production revolution if we are trying to "essentially follow commonly accepted rules for how each instrument should fit in a mix"? Did the 70's sound anything like the 60's? Did the 80's sound anything like the 70's? Would Nirvana have been drowning in 80's gated reverb if a computer made them fit commonly accepted rules at the beginning of the 90's? Would Linkin Park's guitars have been anywhere near as high up in the mix if they were following the established rules of the 90's?

And you know what? More and more, we ARE trying to produce to established rules...and it hurts. 2010 sounds way too much like 2000. Do we really want to stay in this gear even longer?

Computers are great at computing. Not so great at creating.
 
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No.

Maybe that is what song writers and band members do when they record themselves.

Maybe that is what some guy who spends a few thousand on sound equipment does.




That is not what a mixing engineer does.

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I use my own creative talent to do as much or as little to a mix as is required to take it where the producer's vision guides it. (Always easier if I'm also the producer. :D)

Watch it Chibi the next one out on the market may be EZ producer:laughings: :eek: then where will we be?:laughings: :eek:



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It'd be cool if instead of deleting spam threads the mods would just replace the text with "I need slaps!" or something similar.

Yeah like on hitchhikers guide while on that planet when you get an idea a shovel type thing jumps out of the ground and slams you in the face. :laughings:



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If you want to wallow in mediocrity because of the location of your studio, knock yourself out.

lol. let me ask you a question. are you writing your own songs and tracking every single instrument on every recording you make? AND working 40 hrs/week?

i'll never use this software, but i can see where there might be a niche for it.
 
lol. let me ask you a question. are you writing your own songs and tracking every single instrument on every recording you make? AND working 40 hrs/week?

i'll never use this software, but i can see where there might be a niche for it.
That's why god created other human beings. Because we are not supposed to try and do everything ourselves.

G.
 
That's why god created other human beings. Because we are not supposed to try and do everything ourselves.

G.

Hey Glen ...didn't we have a conversation a few weeks ago about plug ins like ezmix? I seem to remember that we speculated about the future of these plug ins and what may be the future of music it's self. It just boils down to more plug ins in your plug in arsenal.



.What year is skynet suppose to be turned on?:laughings:



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Fact is though, that most - maybe nearly all - home recorders mix themselves. And some do it skillfully and creatively. Home recording is the 21st century's folk music, sociomusicologically.:p
 
Fact is though, that most - maybe nearly all - home recorders mix themselves. And some do it skillfully and creatively. Home recording is the 21st century's folk music, sociomusicologically.:p

I sure do like this term for what we do.



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That's why god created other human beings. Because we are not supposed to try and do everything ourselves.

G.


yup and hobbiests are going to pay for mix engineers so we can reach our full potential..

Homerecording: be all you can be or you're shit :D
 
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