crawdad
Dammit, Jim, Shut Up!
kjam22--OK! Now I understand! 
Thanks for that clarification!
Thanks for that clarification!
kjam22
Member
crawdad said:kjam22--OK! Now I understand!
Great! There was a pretty well known composer in the 60's and 70's named Ralph Carmichael... any relation?
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scodu
New member
God I hate being 40!
W.I.S.C.
10lbs.of sh*t in 5lb.BAG
I know what it needs...to be put on CD and sold under the genre of Real Country.This is solid gold,Craw...Leave it alone before you accidentally produce it to sh*t like us amatures...
crawdad
Dammit, Jim, Shut Up!
kjam22--Nope, no relation to Ralph or Hoagy either. I do wish it was my father who wrote Georgia On My Mind and Stardust, though!
scodu--I'd pay lots of money to BE 40 again if I could! Almost 52 now. "Let's pick out the burial plots dear! Oh, and I want my coffin JoeMeek green if at all possible!
W.I.S.C.--I take that as a huge compliment! Thanks! Oh, is there such a category as "real country" anymore?
scodu--I'd pay lots of money to BE 40 again if I could!
Almost 52 now. "Let's pick out the burial plots dear! Oh, and I want my coffin JoeMeek green if at all possible!W.I.S.C.--I take that as a huge compliment! Thanks! Oh, is there such a category as "real country" anymore?
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
Damn! How'd I miss this thread?!
I heard the song earlier 'cause I heard it when I was listening to your 1.5 blues and it's a great song as are all of yours.
I think kjam really does have some good ideas to try on this. I like the fermata idea a lot. And a single violin ( a real one ....David K where are you? ) would be very nice threading it's way around the melody. If you use a string patch....I'd like to hear more of a string section. Also....I'm not sure that I'd use drums. Maybe.......but I'd probably try accessory percussion first. Some lite congas and woodblocks.....something like that.
Great song crawdad........now I've got to go cheer myself up 'cause I've got the over freakin' 50 blues.
I heard the song earlier 'cause I heard it when I was listening to your 1.5 blues and it's a great song as are all of yours.
I think kjam really does have some good ideas to try on this. I like the fermata idea a lot. And a single violin ( a real one ....David K where are you? ) would be very nice threading it's way around the melody. If you use a string patch....I'd like to hear more of a string section. Also....I'm not sure that I'd use drums. Maybe.......but I'd probably try accessory percussion first. Some lite congas and woodblocks.....something like that.
Great song crawdad........now I've got to go cheer myself up 'cause I've got the over freakin' 50 blues.
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A1A2
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crawdad said:Probably none of you young-uns can even relate, but who knows? I just wrote the thing, so what do I know?
I belong to the younger side on this site, but I think I can relate myself to this song tho. I once woke up in morning and thought I had already turned 80, and being in the 20's was just a dream I woke up from. Pretty scary experience.
Nice song!
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HumanDown
New member
I'm 28 and I have the over 40 blues! Great song...I wouldn't change a thing!
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complexprocess
New member
Has a country edge, but sounds very James Talyor to my ears (that's about the biggest compliment I can give, BTW). The tune is awesome.
I'm not in much of a position to comment on production, but If I were I still wouldn't. Sounds great.
I'm not in much of a position to comment on production, but If I were I still wouldn't. Sounds great.
fprod south
Member
Is Matt Watroba playing your stuff on WDET yet? If not he should be.
crawdad
Dammit, Jim, Shut Up!
Damn, I thought this thread died a long time ago! I still want to get back to this and do a proper treatment using the input of so many here. I thought it would be fun to seek outside direction instead of listening to my own subjective producing ideas.
Lt Bob--Hey, I wrote it while I was still 40 something, so when I sing it now, it makes me feel YOUNG again!
A1A2--I've had similar dreams of being very old and dying. Only when I woke up, they were true. (Not really, but I HAVE had similar dreams--yeah, scary stuff!)
HumanDown--Thank you for that!
Complexprocess--Ol' James is an influence for sure , so I do take that as a supreme compliment.
fprodsouth--No. What is the program? Is it like local artists?. I listen to DET but not that particular person. My favorite show is Mountain Stage which airs from 5-7pm on Saturdays.
I still want to get back to this and do a proper treatment using the input of so many here. I thought it would be fun to seek outside direction instead of listening to my own subjective producing ideas. Lt Bob--Hey, I wrote it while I was still 40 something, so when I sing it now, it makes me feel YOUNG again!
A1A2--I've had similar dreams of being very old and dying. Only when I woke up, they were true
. (Not really, but I HAVE had similar dreams--yeah, scary stuff!)HumanDown--Thank you for that!
Complexprocess--Ol' James is an influence for sure , so I do take that as a supreme compliment.
fprodsouth--No. What is the program? Is it like local artists?. I listen to DET but not that particular person. My favorite show is Mountain Stage which airs from 5-7pm on Saturdays.
fprod south
Member
Hey Crawdad,
Here is a link to his site
http://www.folkslikeus.org/
He plays lots of local music and I'm sure he'd eat this up!
He's on Saturdays noon to 3. I haven't listened in years, but I used to every Saturday. Back then anyway he sure did his share of getting music from local musicians on the radio.
You're song would fit perfectly and the recording quality is better than most of what he plays.
Here is a link to his site
http://www.folkslikeus.org/
He plays lots of local music and I'm sure he'd eat this up!
He's on Saturdays noon to 3. I haven't listened in years, but I used to every Saturday. Back then anyway he sure did his share of getting music from local musicians on the radio.
You're song would fit perfectly and the recording quality is better than most of what he plays.
dobro
Well-known member
You're not a kid at heart. You're something else - here and now, maybe, I don't know. I know what you're saying, though.
I like this one just the way it is. I was going to say that you could add some strings if you really wanted to in the second half of the song, but as I listen for the first time, I see you did that.
Really like your voice and the recording of it. Ace sound on the guitar too. Very well done words too.
Here's a creative something: have you ever heard any of Van Morrison's stuff from the early 90's? He had this guy called Nigel Kennedy singing alongside him on lots of his songs. You could do something similar on the chorus. I can hear that other voice. You don't have to put it there, but if you do, make sure it's a *young* voice. It'd make for excellent drama.
I like this one just the way it is. I was going to say that you could add some strings if you really wanted to in the second half of the song, but as I listen for the first time, I see you did that.
Really like your voice and the recording of it. Ace sound on the guitar too. Very well done words too.
Here's a creative something: have you ever heard any of Van Morrison's stuff from the early 90's? He had this guy called Nigel Kennedy singing alongside him on lots of his songs. You could do something similar on the chorus. I can hear that other voice. You don't have to put it there, but if you do, make sure it's a *young* voice. It'd make for excellent drama.
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dobro
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First time through there was this point where I noticed a certain chord change and thought: well, okay, it works.
Fourth listening: I don't notice it no more. Good work dude.
Fourth listening: I don't notice it no more. Good work dude.
dobro
Well-known member
It's a good song, and Tom Waits could do it too. Also, I know better than to make the mistake of thinking every song a songster does is autobiographical. But I've gotta say something about balancing this song with some other song that has over 40 impact. I've finally figured it out. If I was your producer, I wouldn't be bothered about changing this song much at all - what I'd be focused on was the whole album, and how to get your ass into a higher gear on the next tune.
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
ok, ok...so it takes me a month to get thru this friggin place nowadays... phew!! but here I am!! finally...
as a producer:
I'd ditch the ac gtr and replace it with a piano in the beginning. Then come in with wide split double tracked acoustics to help your build on the 2nd verse. Kinda maybe the opposite of what you got going, actually, Then I hear the full symphonic arrangement taking over that, which has been suggested. Oh yeah... female backups too...or at least a counterpoint female part to play off of.
and then the...uh...ah..
bbtte!!!
as a producer:
I'd ditch the ac gtr and replace it with a piano in the beginning. Then come in with wide split double tracked acoustics to help your build on the 2nd verse. Kinda maybe the opposite of what you got going, actually, Then I hear the full symphonic arrangement taking over that, which has been suggested. Oh yeah... female backups too...or at least a counterpoint female part to play off of.
and then the...uh...ah..
bbtte!!!
Kramer
Well-known member
Just listened to this again and man you are in the zone on this one.Lyrics,melody and chord progression grabbed me in an emotional way.This definetly has the it factor......something special about this song crawdad.
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jgourd
New member
I dig it the way it is.
However, if you really want to do more with it, bring the sheet music to the Jamfest and we will give the royal treament.
However, if you really want to do more with it, bring the sheet music to the Jamfest and we will give the royal treament.
djc
Why so serious?
I love it! What a great song! Leave it like it is. Anything else you do to it will diminish it. I wish I could write like that. I'm drunk, does it show?
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psneddon
New member
Thats it, Thats what music's all about.
Not over produced, takes talent.
I hope I reach your level of clarity in my recordings.
Anyway, nice song. Not exactly my cup of tea but seems as good as anything I've heard in that arena.
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Paul
Not over produced, takes talent.
I hope I reach your level of clarity in my recordings.
Anyway, nice song. Not exactly my cup of tea but seems as good as anything I've heard in that arena.
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Paul