Yet another C1 vs. V67G thread

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That was an intersting article... thanks for the link. But it really was just a MXL mic bashing article rather than a V67 vs C1 article... and in all fairness the author should have mentioned that in the past PMI tried or wanted people to think their Studio Projects C1 compared with the Neumann U87 (and it's not even close)... and then the author should have went on to say that that the C1 is a bright sounding mic and if you want a bright sounding mic that is even harsh at times, then get a C1 and the C1 cost about 1/10th of the price of a U87 and the C1 is only about 1/100th as good as the U87... you know, kind of like how the author bashed the MXL. Also it would be cool if Mojo Pie posted Harvey Gerst's Marsahll MXLV67G review next to Keith Ricker's review.
 
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ROFLMGDFAO...............:D :D :D

Chessrock........or should I call you Keith.

That is a classic, but do you honestly believe all you have written?

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I see your still trying to run your post count up with worthless messages... I going to have to start calling you a dickwad soon. Tag, your it.
 
For those of you just joining us

Keith Ricker, owner of Moon Unit Sound = Chessrock
 
I see your still trying to run your post count up with worthless messages
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Pot . . . kettle . . . black:rolleyes:

I foresee another less than informative SP vs. MXL thread coming into existence.
 
And unlike dickwad ausrock (who always like's to tag my post with a flame towards me), Chessrock has helped many people on the HomeRecording forums.
 
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I didn't see any flame in Ausrock's post:confused:

And I wasn't dissing Chessrock. About half the time I agree with what he says. I was just informing anybody who didn't know.
 
Dethska said:
Pot . . . kettle . . . black:rolleyes:

I foresee another less than informative SP vs. MXL thread coming into existence.
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Yeah, that's been happening a lot here lately... because people want to flame me rather than sticking to the subject... well, I've been sitting back and taking it... but, that's going to change as of now... if anyone want to flame me, I will flame them back rather than just sitting back and taking it like I have is the past.
 
Dethska said:
I didn't see any flame in Ausrock's post:confused:

And I wasn't dissing Chessrock. About half the time I agree with what he says. I was just informing anybody who didn't know.
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That because you didn't know until now that ausrock thinks Chressrock is a dickwad and therefore when ausrock calls me Chressrock it is his way of calling me a dickwad too.
 
For Fuck's Sake DJL, get your head out of your arse.

My post wasn't meant for you.

I was well aware that the "review" was written by Chessrock, who BTW I don't particularly regard as a dickwad, and apart from commenting on the humour in his post, I was seriously asking him how much of what he wrote, he actually believed.

:cool:
 
Here's an interesting thing... Harvey's V67G review is favorable and Rick's is not... who is right?

Dot says the C4 is NOT a flat mic and I think it was chessparov who said the C4 IS a flat mic... who is right?
 
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ausrock said:
For Fuck's Sake DJL, get your head out of your arse.

My post wasn't meant for you.

I was well aware that the "review" was written by Chessrock, who BTW I don't particularly regard as a dickwad, and apart from commenting on the humour in his post, I was seriously asking him how much of what he wrote, he actually believed.

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I don't know... how much of what you write do you actually believe? Stick your head back up your arse.
 
Ok, I reread your post and I misread it the first time... sorry ausrock. It's just that I'm getting use to you flaming me and I just jumped the gun.
 
I think all these "A mic vs B mic" reviews are just about worthless... I mean, think about it... one person says one thing and another says the opposite... who's right?
 
DJL

I'm here for a few month, and almost all I read from you is shit about others, saying that everything/everyone is wrong blablabla...exactely like what I'm doing right now, and I shouldnt.

So, why? Dont have something else to do? Am I wrong? Should I post this message...no...will I..still dunno. Damn.

Over 2000 replies about things you dont like to appreciate and enjoy, what are you doing man!?

Ok not of my buisness, I know. And right now, I'm doing exactely what YOU usualy do, so, I'may not be better..

Anyway, sorry about that, I dont know you, I dont really care about you, I dont want to offence you (then why am I writing this...:|) and I dont really read your stuff anymore cuz I know it's almost all helpless.

Sorry about this message, throw whatever you want to me...

AM I WRONG? If yes, Ill excuse me as long as you want.

here..I'll already start the excuse process: DJL, I'm sorry about what I just wrote..I'm totally wrong about you. I'm stupid. And yes, I feel stupid. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Originally posted by DJL I think all these "A mic vs B mic" reviews are just about worthless... I mean, think about it... one person says one thing and another says the opposite... who's right?
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It also depends, obviously, on the source. IMO, the C1 is a good vocal mic for certain sources. I've had much success with it for female vocals and some male vocals. I don't like it much on my voice, but it does an admirable job on many vocal sources. The C1 would NOT be my first choice acoustic guitar mic. It would also NOT be my first call drum overhead mic. But, especially in the sub $1,000 price range, there are few mics that are versatile enough to cover such a wide range (the AKG 414 B-ULS being may favorite multiuse mic below $1k ... perhaps the Shure KSM series).

The problem with alot of the talk about any of the budget mics is that people don't qualify their statements with "on this source" or "on this particular voice" or "in this room" or "this mic in combination with this pre" sounds like... A lot more reality would prevent many of the flame wars that we are subjected to, that is, unless someone has a particular ax to grind about a particular mic or manufacturer.
 
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Here's another opinion. See what Keith Ricker, owner of Moon Unit Sound and reviewer for Mojo Pie has to say...

http://www.mojopie.com/what.html
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Interesting - here's some quotes from chessrock aka moon unit sound from the past - you might take his advice and opinions with a grain of salt.

chessrock
2 19 2002

Behringer B-1

Alright, I'm not spamming for Studio Projects or Behringer, so just chill, okay.

But I got a chance to play with one of these recently, and I think I am on to something, here. Without sounding like a freakin' info-mercial, I think we have the new winner and reigning champion of budget conensers. Okay, so laugh at the Behringer name, but I am familiar with the Rode NT2 and think it's a great mic, albeit on the expensive side at $400. I'm familiar enough with it to know it's sound when I hear it and this thing sounds like it at 1/4 the cost. Unless my ears have completely betrayed me and I am a total dumbass, that is. Which is totally possible, I guess. (Italics courtesy of crazydoc)

So I find out thing thing is basically a B-2 without the extra diaphragm and omnidirectional pattern. And the B-2 is basically a clone/ripoff of the NT2, and sounds identical to my ears. Except you pay $200 and part of that goes to the omnidirectional pattern -- something a lot of us don't need anyway (especially if we took Harvey's advice and bought Behringer's other kickass budget mic in the ECM 8000).

So it looks like Behringer decided to spare us the extra expense and come out with a single-diaphragm, single-directional version that basically has the same sound as a B2. Which has the same sound as the NT2, which kicks ass. And I guess they've decided to give us a case and a shockmount with it, too.

Now don't go thinking I'm some sort of Behringer implant. Heaven forbid. I just want to make sure I have this thread as proof that I was the first one to start shooting my mouth off about it. Because before long, every one of those annoying "Best LDC under $X?" questions will be answered with this microphone, followed by the Marshalls and SP's

. . . and you read it here first, damnit! Give me my due!

So there ! Ppppppttttttt ! ! ! !!




In reply to chessnut's post, moon unit weighs in:



Moon Unit Sound


Chess,

We just received two of them last week, and were thinking the same thing. As far as it being the best bang/buck, that depends on whether you like "that sound." For the money, you can't ignore it, but I've never tried any of the sub-$100 Marshall microphones, or the Studio Projects B-1 (which I don't think is out yet). I would rather have it sound like a Neumann than a Rode, so I guess it's all relative. For the price, though, we figured it would be worth the risk, and I can't say we were disappointed. I'm pretty sure it's by 797 Audio, and I like a lot of their models.

We bought them because we needed a few extra mics for voice-over and broadcast, but now, I'm starting to think we might have another option here for music, too. And no, you weren't the first to discover it. Lots of people have been eyeing them up for quite some time, Chess.

Keith apparently enjoys these mindfucks, but let the reader of his posts and reviews beware.
 
Re: DJL

Kryogh said:
I'm here for a few month, and almost all I read from you is shit about others, saying that everything/everyone is wrong blablabla...exactely like what I'm doing right now, and I shouldnt.

So, why? Dont have something else to do? Am I wrong? Should I post this message...no...will I..still dunno. Damn.

Over 2000 replies about things you dont like to appreciate and enjoy, what are you doing man!?

Ok not of my buisness, I know. And right now, I'm doing exactely what YOU usualy do, so, I'may not be better..

Anyway, sorry about that, I dont know you, I dont really care about you, I dont want to offence you (then why am I writing this...:|) and I dont really read your stuff anymore cuz I know it's almost all helpless.

Sorry about this message, throw whatever you want to me...
AM I WRONG? If yes, Ill excuse me as long as you want.

here..I'll already start the excuse process: DJL, I'm sorry about what I just wrote..I'm totally wrong about you. I'm stupid. And yes, I feel stupid. I hope I'm wrong.
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LOL... that was pretty funny... thanks man, I needed the chuckle.

It's really pretty simple... for example, someone (Alan?) started an incorrect rumor on the internet forums about the Studio Projects B1 being a neutral or flat uncolored mic... which is NOT ture... the B1 is NOT a flat mic. So, I've been correcting those who have just been parroting the incorrect info that they read about the B1 on the internet forums. Then those who think I'm just flaming Studio Projects mic's start tagging my post by flaming me and turning the threads into a flame war rather than sticking to the subject. I think they are doing this to try and hide the fact that the B1 really isn't a flat mic. Come on people quit the crap and stick to the thread subject. Now back to the subject... IMO, Keith's review was NOT a V67G vs C1 type of review.
 
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