Wiring console inserts to balanced patchbay

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Now that I have my rack built (see pics here) , it's time to start wiring up the studio. I have a question about wiring up the console's insert points to the patchbay that I hope someone can help answer for me.

I have a 24 channel Soundtracs Project 8 console, and I just got 4 Neutrik NPP-TT bantam patchbays (balanced with the three push connectors (labelled T, R and S) per jack.))

I understand that I need to connect the insert send to the top of the patchbay and the return to the bottom of the patchbay, but how to do this is where I'm stuck. I'm currently using Mogami 3080 cable to wire this up. The cable is 2 conductor with a drain wire, and a shield for the whole cable.

I know I need a TRS connection into the console (the console's inserts are 1/4" TRS jacks). I'm thinking I connect the hot (red) to tip, the cold (clear) to ring, and the drain and shield to sleeve. On my console, tip is return, and ring is send.

On the patchbay side, for the top jack (send), do I connect the clear to the R, the drain and shield to the S, and leave the T with nothing connected to it? Then on the bottom for the return, do I connect the red to T, the drain and shield to S, and leave the R with nothing connected to it? I know this is how a y insert cable is wired.

If I do need to connect the drain and shield to both the top and bottom jacks, how do I go about doing that? There is only one set of those, so they can physically go to either the top or bottom, but not both. Can I connect the drain and shield to the S in the top jack and then run a jumper wire from that S to the S in the bottom jack?

Hopefully this makes some kind of sense. I tried searching this board and many others, along with google, and could not find a diagram or answer to this problem.

Thanks in advance for any help I get on this.

Chris
 

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Does that say "Digital Cable"? I'm no expert but I don't think you're supposed to use digital cable to wire a board to a bay. I'm not familiar with your bay but what I do is run my inserts through a regular ol' TRS snake to the patchbay. then I run the Y cable in the front of the patchbay (instead of behind). this way I can slide the snake cables from the insert over to say an input on each channel, and use the balanced inputs through the same jack on the patchbay. I hope this helps.
 
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