Windows XP

[brzilian]

Re: Re: laptop recording

You should be able to pick up a USB audio interface of some sort. That should do to replace a four track at least

USB cannot handle highter bandwith well that is associated with 24-bit audio and multiple tracks. It is not a very good replacement just yet for the internal PCI cards you buy for a desktop computer.

 

[muse]

I am a bill gates microsoft statistic

I haven't posted for quite a long time, and being a continual newbie I just lurk a lot, but do appreciate all the great information and conversation and will share more about my system and projects in the near future, but for the moment here's my sad XP story:

I purchased a CVP-700 Yamaha clavinova this past spring and my husband wanted to buy me a dedicated audio computer system to go with it for my birthday last month (nice hubby!) Gateway assured him that the 700s series which was only available with the new XP home edition operating system would be compatible with everything and well suited to the purpose.

'Puter arrived several days later: Intel pentium 4, 1.8 GHz, 256 MB PC800 RDRAM, 80 GB Ultra ATA100 hard drive, DVD-ROM and CDRW drives, SoundBlaster Live! Value with Digital Audio Output, Integrated Ultra ATA Controller and Roxio software pre-installed.

I have had bad experiences with Easy CD in the past, so the first order of business was to attempt installation of Nero 5.5.1 which states it was specifically designed to work with XP. To cut to the chase, it disengaged both CD drives and crashed the system. Several support technicians and days later, we were told that this is a bug in XP which does not allow installation of stand along CD burning software and will be fixed at some point in the future. E-mail to Nero about a patch was never answered.

The end result is that Gateway is shipping me an identical system with windows 2000 installed (because if I installed a different operating system myself I would void my warranty).

I plan to upgrade at some point to a Delta 1010 to connect with my clavinova directly and use Sound Forge to edit and Sonar to track. I also use a MZ-R900 minidisc to do some basic recording of my voice/piano lessons.

Unfortunately I know of others who have had trouble as well, who were unable to install software (general, not audio related) that was integral to home or business use and either reinstalled a different operating system themselves or returned their systems as I did. I am glad some of you were able to resolve your system conflicts, but personally am anxious to have my 2000 back.

Muse

 

[Badger]

Somebody at gateway is full of shit

I have successfully installed Nero, Roxio Ez cd creator and clone cd on my XP box, and burn stuff with it every day. No problem. They are bullshitting you.

 

[Badger]

Re: Re: Re: laptop recording

USB cannot handle highter bandwith well that is associated with 24-bit audio and multiple tracks. It is not a very good replacement just yet for the internal PCI cards you buy for a desktop computer.

Yeah, but if all he has is a laptop his choices are kinda limited.

 

[brzilian]

Re: Re: Re: Re: laptop recording

Yeah, but if all he has is a laptop his choices are kinda limited.

I would look for a PCMCIA (PC-Card) interface. Much faster since you buy PC-Card SCSI controllers. A lot less of a bottleneck.

 

[Badger]

Maybe so, I havent really seen any pro level recording cards in pcmcia(havent really been looking that hard though, do you know of any?), but there are a few in USB. Since he is using a four track now, he's not gonna be recording 8 channels at a time. For 2 tracks at a time, USB shoud work just fine.

 

[jdechant]

Muse,

If this is a bug, it is certainly new news to me... I have been running Nero 5.5.5.1 and EZCD5 and CDRWIN4.0a all on XP with no problems at all...

so have many other people

whoever told you that there is a bug in XP which does not allow installation of stand along CD burning software is a complete idiot... let me guess.. the gateway techs??? yepp... they're idiots... seriously gateway has horrible customer support...

 

[ColdAsh]

Does you need professinoal XP or will the home version do? Also do you need to own other versions of windows to do a dual boot?

could someone please respond to my question

 

[muse]

Hi jdechant and all,

It has been a little frustrating to say the least to hear that I probably could have worked out the conflicts on my system ... I guess I figured that was the case all along, but wasn't sure how long that would take and at the time XP had just been released and there was not a lot of discussion about it here. My new system arrives sometime today with 2000 installed and that should be just fine: everything worked with that setup and I'll have a faster processor and a larger drive to work with to boot!
(no pun intended, but enjoy anyway...)

We have purchased six computers from Gateway now including the systems at my husband's office. The first four ran quite well and we were very happy with our customer service, although never required much until the last year or so. They seem to have slipped a bit. Fortunately we found one saint who seems to be quite knowledgeable when he is available.

I'll be back posting when I get everything installed to really start working and start another topic: I just finished my first real but small music project so I'll have no excuses to get busy and drum up some more business! Very exciting

Thanks, Muse

 

[Badger]

could someone please respond to my question

I thought we did. XP home will be just fine, as long as you are only gonna run one proccessor. XP pro supports dual processors, and a little bit more networking stuff.

I am not sure what you mean about the dual boot question.

 

[jdechant]

dual boot...

answer to dual boot...

you can dual boot XP an XP... XP and 2000... 2000 and 2000... 2000 and 9x... or XP and 9x...

with the built in boot manager of XP/2000 you can boot multiple OSes easily and they can all be the same OS...

so yes you can use dual boot with both OSes being XP... if you are not going to use both OSes as XP, remember to install the newest OS last...

for example if U wanted to run XP and 2000... you would install 2000 first and then XP...

 

[RWhite]

Coldash - Another difference, I believe if you are currently running NT or 2000 and want to do an "upgrade" that will only work with the "Pro" edition. Of course if you don't mind errasing your system and installing fresh (always prefered) that doens't matter. Win 98 or ME will upgrade to the home edition. Win 95 is a "Big Sorry".

Pro has many security and networking features lacking in the home edition, but if you only have one PC these wont matter much to you either.

As for CD Burning, the EZCD people recomend uninstalling EZCD5 before doing an upgrade, then re-installing under XP. However anyone I know with XP who has installed CD burning software has mentioned no problems.

 

[ColdAsh]

Ok
but do you have to say own Me if you want to run dual boot with XP and ME. Im fiarly sure the answer would be yes but i thought id cheque anyway.
Does anyone know which OS has best support for Midi man products (ive bought an Omni Delta 66) and for logic (i'll be buying version 5 which i think supports all windows version, expect maybe XP)
Cheers

 

[Middleman]

Love XP or hate it?

Well here was my experience -

Legacy sound cards:
Midi man PCI - no drivers past Win 98 - XP found the native chip and itstalled its own driver. Works flawlessly

Roland Sound Canvas SCC1 circa 1993- Absolutely would not work under Win 2000. XP used the legacy MPU401 driver. Card works flawlessy.

Also have SB Live for sound fonts and all three of these cards work together!

Video capture card would not work under ME, works great under XP.

I think this XP ROCKS!

 

[camn]

Coldash--

You have to HAVE a copy of Me in order to install it and stuff. If its already on your comp.. you coupld probably put a duallie of XP on top of it... but youre looking for trouble if you dont have a copy...it would be better to just use XP.

If Me is NOT already installed... and you DONT have a copy...then you CANNOT install it...unless you GET a COPY.

xoxo

 

[Badger]

Hmmm.....10 think its absolute garbage. I wonder how many of them have actually tried XP, and how many of those are just parroting the usual "Its new, its from Microsoft, therefore it must be evil....We fear change...." whiney crap.

Ive saw attitude when windows 3.0 originally came out, then again when 95 came out, and then with 98,98se,me,2k etc...

Well, I've actually used it, and it has been zero problems for me. Everything just installed(except for my old MOTU MIDI Time Piece II, and it didnt even have NT drivers so I wasnt expecting it to work. Anybody wanna buy one?). It has been extremely stable as well.

 

[ola]

Maybe he doesn't need to record more than 4 tracks at once. As you can have many more in the computer, it might be enough.

 

[camn]

I hated it when win95 came out.

However, I loved it when 98 came out.

xoxo

 

[sharkbass]

XP vs Samplitude/SBLive...

Careful about upgrading to XP if you use Samplitude as your recording program with a SBLive card! Samplitude does not run with the WDM drivers for the soundcard and creatives new drivers are also WDM. Sek'd is working on a patch for v6 but I don't know about earlier versions (If you E-Mail Sek'd they will tell you to get MME drivers from creative BUT THERE IS NONE FOR XP according to creative). Seems only to affect Samplitude. Sonar, Acid and sound Forge all seem happy. Lucky I have more than one card!

 

[c9-2001]

i have sampliture and sequoia under XP, i don't have a problem...or is it just a problem with the sb live...i thought the sb live xp drivers just came out, i say them on a site... i wish i had the damn link