Who has written some of the most complicated

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There once was a man named Andre Segovia (rip) who wrote some pretty intricate music for guitar. He played classical guitar so that may have put a few restrictions on some of what he wrote, after all there are only 4688 possible chords (including variations and inversions) which can be done on a 17 fret nylon string classical guitar.
 
Let's do a bit of a change up on this. Think in terms of complex arrangements for a couple of guitars. Rock, not classical or alternates.
 
Greg_L said:
Angus Young
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:p


Um, on a more serious note... Maclaughlin certainly deserves a nod here, but I'll also toss out:

Cynic
Meshuggah
Alan Holdsworth
Sikth
Periphery
Blotted Science

Maybe not always the most tasteful of bands, but if you want to have your head absolutely blown, these guys are usually a pretty safe bet. :)
 
...also, while they fail the "couple guitars" test, guys like Leo Kottke and Michael Hedges really need to be mentioned here, too.
 
getuhgrip if you are looking for stuff to learn as more of a study, to get better, the ultimate chord-meister I know of is pianist Antonio Carlos Jobim. Tons of guitarists have studied his work. Every guitar player I've ever known has. Jobim's chord progressions have had a massive effect on popular music.

I would bet that Angus Young, for sure, worked up a few of his songs. Randy Bachman of the Guess Who and BTO wrote "Undun" and it most likely came from such study.

If nothing else, most guitarists could learn a lot from learning "Desifinado".
 
dintymoore said:
getuhgrip if you are looking for stuff to learn as more of a study, to get better, the ultimate chord-meister I know of is pianist Antonio Carlos Jobim. Tons of guitarists have studied his work. Every guitar player I've ever known has. Jobim's chord progressions have had a massive effect on popular music.

I would bet that Angus Young, for sure, worked up a few of his songs. Randy Bachman of the Guess Who and BTO wrote "Undun" and it most likely came from such study.

If nothing else, most guitarists could learn a lot from learning "Desifinado".
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Huh.:confused:

Wave was pretty original but just about everything else he did had already been covered by many arrangers and composers way before Jobim. Check out Billy Strayhorn first seriously... and a lot of his stuff lies in the work that went before him. His arranging for Ellington is seriously underrated though.
 
DrewPeterson7 said:
:p Are you kidding me? I'm a HUGE Gilmour fan, I consider him a huge influence, and I love his band, but Floyd was never about musical complexity.
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My thought when I first saw this thread was "music is not about musical complexity".

Hendrix never really played fast. Neil Young sure isn't fancy. Fancy and complicated mean little to nothing when it comes to groove. Stanley Clarke has put out some complicated stuff that grooves, some of it is questionable.

But my guess is that the point of this thread was more to find practice /learning material.

What's hard to copy with Pink Floyd is the tone, the actual sound is about as good as it gets. Jeff Beck's Blow by Blow and Wired impressed the guitarists I was around growing up. Jimmy Page sure has come up with some killer licks. This last year I've been into Leslie West. But none of that stuff is that complicated, but real musical.

For me, I've always been way more interested in guys that can play the least complicated and still make great music. It's actually harder to do.
 
DrewPeterson7 said:
:p Are you kidding me? I'm a HUGE Gilmour fan, I consider him a huge influence, and I love his band, but Floyd was never about musical complexity.
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You just cant leave me alone can you! I suppose you can nail all Gilmore's solos, even ones that were multitracked.
VP
 
dintymoore said:
My thought when I first saw this thread was "music is not about musical complexity".

Hendrix never really played fast. Neil Young sure isn't fancy. Fancy and complicated mean little to nothing when it comes to groove. Stanley Clarke has put out some complicated stuff that grooves, some of it is questionable.

But my guess is that the point of this thread was more to find practice /learning material.

What's hard to copy with Pink Floyd is the tone, the actual sound is about as good as it gets. Jeff Beck's Blow by Blow and Wired impressed the guitarists I was around growing up. Jimmy Page sure has come up with some killer licks. This last year I've been into Leslie West. But none of that stuff is that complicated, but real musical.

For me, I've always been way more interested in guys that can play the least complicated and still make great music. It's actually harder to do.
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Great point! Less is more.
VP
 
getuhgrip said:
And he played what...an Ernie Ball, or a Jackson Dinky? :confused:
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I don't know or even care what a EB or a JD is. All I know is what I saw in the movie Amadeus. And in that movie Mozart played some shit while on hiz back and upside down.
 
getuhgrip said:
guitar pieces?

Not just solos, but seriously mind-boggling riffs, chord transitions, and melodies.
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Ok start with Close to the Edge by Yes and pay attention.

Then go to Relayer by Yes and pay even more close attention.

Then if you got the balls, take in Joe Pass Virtuoso.

If you're still breathing play Friends by Chick Corea
 
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