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Wallycleaver
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Just seems like saying "I've got a bigger penis than you" IMHO
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LongWaveStudio
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WallyCleaver,
i didn't mean to make it out like that, i just thought Sjoko was trashing my acoustic enviroment and i know there's nothing wrong with it.
i wasn't saying "ive got a bigger penis that you", or to that effect. i was stating that i wasn't being cocky, the rooms were good because its a professional studio, so it has to be good.
i didn't mean to make it out like that, i just thought Sjoko was trashing my acoustic enviroment and i know there's nothing wrong with it.
i wasn't saying "ive got a bigger penis that you", or to that effect. i was stating that i wasn't being cocky, the rooms were good because its a professional studio, so it has to be good.
sjoko2
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no need to argue guys, I never take offence at anything .......just here for fun.
I just looked at THD's website, looks like Chandlers in Kew sell them. http://thdelectronics.com/products/. I didn't have to pay for it, so I don't know how much it costs.
They also make an awsome cabinet to go with it, with 2 good'ol (modified) Celestions.
I'll guarantee you'll have fun bastardizing tomorrow! (my favorite occupation)
I just looked at THD's website, looks like Chandlers in Kew sell them. http://thdelectronics.com/products/. I didn't have to pay for it, so I don't know how much it costs.
They also make an awsome cabinet to go with it, with 2 good'ol (modified) Celestions.
I'll guarantee you'll have fun bastardizing tomorrow! (my favorite occupation)
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LongWaveStudio
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Hey man,
ill look into that univibe thing, ill get one sent down to try, who are the distributors, d'ya know?
hey, i HAD to bastardize something today. it was a drump part for like an intro to a song, it needed some lo-fi distorted drum sound. but i had a play in amp farm, couldn't find anything i reeeally wanted, but i think it's cus i have't played with it long enough. i ended up running the overheads through a gx700, the snare through another gx700, the bass drum through a bod with all the low end taken off (im remiding you we needed a really almost radio sounding kit), and then ran everything through an Electrix Filter Factory. sounded wicked.it's only for about 15 seconds , then the proper kit just blasts through. we were pretty drunk too
it's the last track on their album so we kinda had early celebrations, oops. try using auto tune on a guitar solo, sounds so funky!
ill look into that univibe thing, ill get one sent down to try, who are the distributors, d'ya know?
hey, i HAD to bastardize something today. it was a drump part for like an intro to a song, it needed some lo-fi distorted drum sound. but i had a play in amp farm, couldn't find anything i reeeally wanted, but i think it's cus i have't played with it long enough. i ended up running the overheads through a gx700, the snare through another gx700, the bass drum through a bod with all the low end taken off (im remiding you we needed a really almost radio sounding kit), and then ran everything through an Electrix Filter Factory. sounded wicked.it's only for about 15 seconds , then the proper kit just blasts through. we were pretty drunk too
it's the last track on their album so we kinda had early celebrations, oops. try using auto tune on a guitar solo, sounds so funky!
sjoko2
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Chandler Guitars
300-302 Sandycombe Road
Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 3NG
44 181 940 5874
sales@chandlerguitars.co.uk
www.chandlerguitars.co.uk
If you have a prob with them, let me know.
Did you listen to Uru's demo of Desert City? http://www.mp3.com/uru
Thats another one we did at home, while the studio is being build, on a pretty bare PT system. I just wanted a quick loop, just as a rythm indicator, that's all.
So, what I recorded was a standard loop from a $399 Yamaha DJX, consisting of a light drum beat and a fretless bass. Didn't have any MIDI stuff set up, so I recorded the whole thing on 1 track first, then each component individually, and alligned them by ear with the single track.
We recorded all vocals over this, and then I squeezed and basterdized the tracks, using the fretless sound, mainly by using amp farm.
The 'heavy guitar' sound, synth sounds etc .... its all the fretless.
Other effects came from a telephone answering machine sounds CD.
I wonder what I'm going to do to it when we record it for real
300-302 Sandycombe Road
Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 3NG
44 181 940 5874
sales@chandlerguitars.co.uk
www.chandlerguitars.co.uk
If you have a prob with them, let me know.
Did you listen to Uru's demo of Desert City? http://www.mp3.com/uru
Thats another one we did at home, while the studio is being build, on a pretty bare PT system. I just wanted a quick loop, just as a rythm indicator, that's all.
So, what I recorded was a standard loop from a $399 Yamaha DJX, consisting of a light drum beat and a fretless bass. Didn't have any MIDI stuff set up, so I recorded the whole thing on 1 track first, then each component individually, and alligned them by ear with the single track.
We recorded all vocals over this, and then I squeezed and basterdized the tracks, using the fretless sound, mainly by using amp farm.
The 'heavy guitar' sound, synth sounds etc .... its all the fretless.
Other effects came from a telephone answering machine sounds CD.
I wonder what I'm going to do to it when we record it for real
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LongWaveStudio
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ill get on the phone to the supplier to grab one on test. only problem is that all the studios except studio D are all doing mixing for a fair bit of time, so it's not gonna get tested for a while!thanks for all the info. ill check out that track when i have some more time.
nice one mate.
-Romesh
Long Wave Studio
nice one mate.
-Romesh
Long Wave Studio
ruebarb
New member
MC012
I wasn't happy with the results I was getting with an SM57 on my amp. I have a very warm tone, and I wasn't getting a lot of natural high end from the mic.
Then I tried my Oktava MC012's - (the one's I use for drum overheads) - I really liked the sound of those. that's where I'm headed for the near future, I suspect.
I wasn't happy with the results I was getting with an SM57 on my amp. I have a very warm tone, and I wasn't getting a lot of natural high end from the mic.
Then I tried my Oktava MC012's - (the one's I use for drum overheads) - I really liked the sound of those. that's where I'm headed for the near future, I suspect.
darrin_h2000
Banned
Doug H
I'll be there
I'm finally starting to get decent results with a sm57. But the mic placement is critical. Too close to the outer edge of the cone and it's all mud, too close to the inside and there's no balls. I'm currently positioning it close to the edge facing in on about a 45% angle to the grill and the results aren't too bad. I have a hard time believing it doesn't get any better. I'm sure adding a $600 mic in a professional sound room about three feet from the amp would pick things up a bit.
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Harvey Gerst
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Don't be too sure about that. The Shure SM-57 is pretty much of a standard as far as miking guitar cabinets and you'll probably hear it on about 99% of the music you have.Doug H said:
Yes, there are other combinations that may work better for a lot more money on some songs, but the SM-57 is usually the first "go to" mic for guitar amps, regardless of the recording budget.
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donkeystyle
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i wish we could all change that "the 57 is the first go to mic on any budget"
there are so many mics that sound better. i understand that u have to find the right mic for the job, but the problem is no one does that they just use the first "go to" mic (the 57). i have used 57's in the past and they were never what i wanted. i've recorded heavy and soft bands and they just didn't work.
i normally use a combination of mics. the last recording i did had 4 mics with one mic being a room mic (it caused a lot of phasing and got cut out of the mix)
the other 3 mics were i believe an AT63he , a shure beta 58 and i jokingly threw my atm25 in front of it.
the mic i ended up using furthest up in the mix was the atm 25. i expected to cut it and the room mic out, but the 25 was awesome. it has so much balls......... and i didn't even worry about placement...like i said i intended to cut it, but wanted to experiment with it for you know "future use" .........it's awesome.....that mic is a freaking workhorse........it could definitley become the new sm57.....if we could only get people to get away from the 57.
basically i think with the atm25 you would get what ur looking for tone wise, but you might be able to get the sound u want from a 57. you said creed, which means you want a pretty chunky guitar sound............. the atm25 has a good amount of chunk............
this is the end of my post
there are so many mics that sound better. i understand that u have to find the right mic for the job, but the problem is no one does that they just use the first "go to" mic (the 57). i have used 57's in the past and they were never what i wanted. i've recorded heavy and soft bands and they just didn't work.
i normally use a combination of mics. the last recording i did had 4 mics with one mic being a room mic (it caused a lot of phasing and got cut out of the mix)
the other 3 mics were i believe an AT63he , a shure beta 58 and i jokingly threw my atm25 in front of it.
the mic i ended up using furthest up in the mix was the atm 25. i expected to cut it and the room mic out, but the 25 was awesome. it has so much balls......... and i didn't even worry about placement...like i said i intended to cut it, but wanted to experiment with it for you know "future use" .........it's awesome.....that mic is a freaking workhorse........it could definitley become the new sm57.....if we could only get people to get away from the 57.
basically i think with the atm25 you would get what ur looking for tone wise, but you might be able to get the sound u want from a 57. you said creed, which means you want a pretty chunky guitar sound............. the atm25 has a good amount of chunk............
this is the end of my post
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chessrock
Banned
I brought up a similar subject in the mic forum : The more I experiment and really listen critically, the more I start appreciating the sound of a Large Diaphragm Condenser on guitar amp/cab.
I've recently started using my very best vocal LDC on it, and I don't think I'm going back. The improvement isn't subtle.
I've recently started using my very best vocal LDC on it, and I don't think I'm going back. The improvement isn't subtle.
Track Rat
Just Your Average Sized Member
No mic is a one size fits all. I like a 57 sometimes. But one mic I do seem to use a lot for amps is a AT4033. I just back it off from the grill about 6-9" and tilt it down off axis a bit and it just sounds great. That's the setup I used on the tune I posted recently. But still, it depends on the sound coming out of the amp and trying to match the mic and preamp to that.
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Henri Devill
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The 57 is a no brainer it just works! I like the 4033 also for elec. guit.{my favorite} One mic Im likeing right now also on elec. guit is the Shure Beta 87...
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Don
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analogelectric
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SM57 in front
RCA 74b junior ribbon in open back, (I'll even take the back off a cab if I have to).
Also,
a combo of an RCA BK-5 ribbon and an Electrovoice RE-20 both in front.
How about,
a Sennheiser e609 in front.
I'll definitely double up the guitars and pan them out until it sounds huge. Sometimes I'll even put a third track up the middle for more massive injection of pure sonic thunder.
This all depends on the frequency relationship you have with drums and bass. If you have any frequencies fighting with each other you run into the possibility of canceling out certain instruments. Pump a little 250Hz in the guitars and you'll notice a little more thunder. Don't forget to leave a little top end around 4k to 7k for clarity.
--AdamLazlo
RCA 74b junior ribbon in open back, (I'll even take the back off a cab if I have to).
Also,
a combo of an RCA BK-5 ribbon and an Electrovoice RE-20 both in front.
How about,
a Sennheiser e609 in front.
I'll definitely double up the guitars and pan them out until it sounds huge. Sometimes I'll even put a third track up the middle for more massive injection of pure sonic thunder.
This all depends on the frequency relationship you have with drums and bass. If you have any frequencies fighting with each other you run into the possibility of canceling out certain instruments. Pump a little 250Hz in the guitars and you'll notice a little more thunder. Don't forget to leave a little top end around 4k to 7k for clarity.
--AdamLazlo
James Argo
Fancy Rock N' Roll
SM57 generaly. But vary due to room, miking position, preamps, and taste.
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volltreffer
Imply depressed
Someone ever tried a large dynamic?
aXel
aXel
Track Rat
Just Your Average Sized Member
I've used D-112's on amps I thought where overly bright. It was like a natural EQand evened out nicely.volltreffer said:
Stefan Elmblad
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Shure SM-7
Meshuggah
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Line Audio CM2