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I'm looking to buy a computer for my studio. Right now we run on a decently new Dell with a 2.? ghz processor and 512 mbs of ram, etc. I', looking at getting a Mac G5. Is this the best route? Are there other computers that are equally as affordable and are just as good for what I want to do? I want no limitations on the recording, I need a workehorse of a pc but I want to make sure im not paying for the name.
 
le bees knees said:
but I want to make sure im not paying for the name.
Which is exactly what you'll be doing if you go with a Mac.

If you use sense and do your homework both before and after your purchase a PC is every bit as good a machine as a Mac. And you could probably buy two PC systems for what a comparable Mac costs.
 
Sorry, but I don't think a pc is every bit as good as a Mac. I've owned both and am now a Mac person. I believe them to be much more stable and geared towards the media industry (audio/video/print). Why do most recording studios use Mac's? :cool:
 
Why do most recording studios use Mac's?

Fashion statement (cause all the other studios use macs)

How exactly are the "geared" towards media exactly? Is the software u use on a Mac any different than the same software on PC?
 
altitude909 said:
Fashion statement (cause all the other studios use macs)

How exactly are the "geared" towards media exactly? Is the software u use on a Mac any different than the same software on PC?

yes the software is most definately different. The difference in some programs platform to platform in appearance isn't very different, but the performance of that software can be quite different.

Also, there are Mac programs that are proprietary that don't have PC equivalents. In my opinion, Final Cut Pro (Mac only) FAAAAR outshines Premiere...

Jacob
 
Well, I wouldnt run out and buy something just because everyone else did (Mac). IMO, PCs have caught up with the Macs in terms of operating systems (XP Pro), which was their only REAL drawback. The PC hardware is WAY better than Mac though. It seems like you are looking for a BEAST of a machine -- since youre tryna replace what sounds like a good system. (I use an AMD 1400+ with 640 MB RAM and I get along great...so i know the 2.? CANT be bad)
I agree that the "same" software on different platforms is NOT equivalent in terms of performance. A lot of people say Pro Tools works better on the Mac, and Cubase works best on PC...etc etc. So that could be a consideration if you have a software preference. But if performance is what your after (you dont wanna have to worry about max # of tracks your setup can handle) I say go PC, hands down. If i was gonna suggest some specifications (which im gonna use when I decide to upgrade BTW), Id say get the fastest AMD 64 you can afford, 1GB RAM, and definitely XP Professional.
 
I never said that different apps perform the same on each platform. They are functionally the same apps and are no more "creative" on PC than Mac.

Premiere vs final cut? Thats one example of a prosumer app. Look at Avids video software which is definetley not prosumer (Adrenaline HD minimum specs are dual Xeon 3.4) if you want to see what real video editing looks like (oh and they now support OSX)

The only thing that Mac has on PC is their nice plastic UI which is nice for ppl who like nice plastic things and have no real clue on how to maintain a PC
 
yeah I'm getting the impression that people use Macs for the same reason they use Pro Tools - it's a fashion thing. I've been to numerous audio schools for different reasons, and almost everyone ends up saying they HAVE to use PT because it's the "standard" but if their employers would let them, they'd make their primary Nuendo or Logic.
 
Some pro multimedia applications are written for dual processor (like Photoshop) which these G5 have and therefore will perform very well. Most dual processor PC’s will put the price right up there with Mac. Also you may consider your current software and plug-ins. It may not have an OSX installation. I’m not trying to keep you a PC user but that’s a lot of cash were talking about here and performance may not be all that above a PC. Plus Apple will start using Intel processors in the near future which tells me the current processor is not cutting it out any more. I’m not saying they perform poorly (processor).
I read they were not meeting Apples expectations.
 
Sirnothingness said:
Why do most recording studios use Mac's?
Silly rabbit. Because they can build it into their rates and charge their clients for the difference.


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oh_the_blood said:
mac

no crash at all

Your right! Your Mac will never crash! If you still use OS9 it will freeze! And, given the chance, OSX will give you the "blue screen of death" or the dreaded "spinning pizza wheel." I use a "force quit" every other day and I wish I could count the number of times my Mac gives me the message "Application XX has quit unexpectedly, would you like to submit a report?" I use only Macs and I've owned a Performa, a G2 225Mhz, a G4 450 MHz, a flat panel i-Mac, two i-Mac G5's, and two i-books. I'm loyal to Apple (mostly out of pure inertia) and I'll probably never own a PC. But trust me, Macs are computers made by a large corporation. They are perfectly capable of screwing up. It's only a matter of time and how easily you recover. That's why every new Mac buyer should also buy Disk Warrior or TechTool. You have to go to the very back of the Apple store to find it, but it's the best $89 you'll ever spend.
 
Ummm.....what's wrong with the Dell. I have one, and I've never ever had a problem of any kind with it. As for which is better for recording, I don't really think it makes that much difference anymore, and by the comments here, I'd say that was true.
 
I've used macs too, and don't be fooled for a second into thinking that they are way more stable...they have their bugs, don't you worry about that. That includes the G5.

A well researched, configured and assembled PC allows great customisation.

I'm not saying Macs suck, but don't expect miracles from them...big myths building up about their multimedia friendliness
 
Reasons why I use a Mac-

-I know the OS in and out

-I know how it will perfrom

-and some of the software I run is Mac only

-I get less crap on my computer from the internet.

I also own a Dell that I use for internet/office/games, and it works great also.

Buy a computer that you are comfortable with and one that meets your recording needs.
 
crunkthanamug said:
Well, I wouldnt run out and buy something just because everyone else did (Mac). IMO, PCs have caught up with the Macs in terms of operating systems (XP Pro), which was their only REAL drawback. The PC hardware is WAY better than Mac though.

OMG i hope you're joking.

(before I start, can i stress that i'm not a mac-oholic - i have both a PC and a Mac and use them for totally different things)

1) everyone doesnt go out and buy a mac. in fact, the stats will prove that everyone actually goes out and buys a PC. or an xbox 360.
2) PC's have caught up with macs in terms of OS. hmm ok. well considering that OSX has been fully revamped several times over the last few years, and windows XP pro is much older, i would strongly disagree. also, XP Pro is XP Home with the extra networking capacity. it has no extra benefits to a music system at all. both chew up considerable amounts of memory, are relatively unstable, are both intrusive, and are both (still) extremely vulnerable systems if you don't know what you're doing. OSX is built around security and functionality, whereas XP is patched together. don't get me wrong - I love windows XP. but to say that it's nearly up toe to toe with the OSX right now is a bit out of touch.
3) right. now the PC hardware debate. PC's are generally cut-and-shut from various pieces from various manufacturers. all the parts in a mac are built to integrate and run properly with eachother. my powerbook laptop G4 with a 2Ghz chip and 768Mb ram absolutely LICKS THE FLOOR with my PC's 3Ghz pentium, 1Gb ram, in terms of performance and stability.
4) most PC hardware actually is mac compatible. but instead of installing 100s of drivers, you just plug it in. i have a USB soundcard, webcam, monitor, speakers, mouse, printer, etc that were all originally from my PC. all i needed to do on my mac was plug them in. no installation, no drivers, just plug the damn things in.

my mac has crashed twice since i bought it a year ago. my PC crashes at some point nearly every day at LEAST once.

so...what i always say in the PC vs Mac debate:

1) Mac's are more expensive. you'll get alot more value for money with a PC
2) Macs are more stable. don't expect it to crash half way through a recording. this is not my own opinion. this is a fact. OSX is noted for it's stability and security, where windows XP has a security loophole issue announced pretty much every week.
3) PC's are easier to use. whilst OSX is not complicated, windows XP is easy. on the other hand, windows XP is very intrusive and will occasionally keep asking if you want to do things that you never asked for in terms of installing things.
4) PC's are (at the moment) more supported and more upgradeable. again though, this is mainly to do with the cut-and-shut thing where just about any part can be thrown into a PC, wheras Mac's are more specialist.
5) macs mostly look better
6) PC's have more choice of recording software, whilst to be honest, the mac's only choice is logic pro (i know there are others, but logic is the only reason one would buy a mac, really).

so, in a nutshell - if you want a stable, strong system and are prepared to shell out some proper cash, then get a Mac.
if you want to sacrifice some of the stability and performance and get the versatility of an all round machine, get a PC.

studio's don't use mac's cos they're all sheep, following and copying eachother. they use them because they're tried and tested as suitable machines always up to the job. period.
 
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