Which compressor would you go for ?????

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Which one would you go for , if you had to get one for your home studio,,,
I have never used a compressor before, but when i get one i dont want to be dissapointed with my purchase. Want to get a recognised " good un ".
I know what they are used for and would like one in my set up now. I have done a lot of searches and read up a lot about each of the different models,, but there is no substitute for owners experience.
I have sort of,,a choice at the moment,,,

1/ Drawmer LX20

2/ Drawmer DL221

3/ dbx 1066

4/ 2 DBX 266XL (a pair)


All are in used, but excellent condition and range in price from £90 - £175.

What is the best value for money, and which one would you get if you needed one ???????
 
I am guessing you were hoping for a suggestion taken from among only the ones you listed......

From your list I would go with the DBX stuff every time..... it is tried and trued and very predictable. And that's a good thing when it comes to a compressor.....
 
Hi guys,,, Yeah,, opinions is what am after.

I know that DBX is quality stuff but there is a lot of variation in price for similar models,, for instance, there are shitloads of DBX 266XL on the used market going roughly for £50 -£70, but you can get a brand new one for £99.
The DBX 1066,,, great reveiws,, hardly any used ones around,, go for £130-£200.
Must be a reason that there are loads of 266XL,s around, and hardly any 1066 models.
Now,, from what i have read,, Drawmer is supposed to be far superior to Dbx, and again, there are very few of them out on the used market, however,, the LX20 is not as costly as the DBX1066,, but the DL221 is even more expensive.

Getting very confused as to which one to go for.
I can get a DBX 266XL less than £60,, but will be able to get hold of a pair of them for roughly £100. Is it worth holding on and spending a bit more on a single 1066,, or should i start thinking about the better drawmer models.

Have been bitten by the behringer, alesis, bug a few times and have been so pissed off with the product that i have promised myself to only go for better quality in the future.
Sorry to be a pain,, but i dont want to get stung again.
cheers,,, kev
 
If they're used don't worry about it so much. I like to buy used gear cause I can sell it again and if I lose anything it's not much! I would get both the DBX's and then try em, see what I like better and then find a buyer for the one you don't want! I know you can get these, but there are a lot of people around here, especially well respected guys like Harvey, who like the FMR RNC hands down before anything else in their price range. I think i remember reading Harvey Gerst say that it's the best clean, uncolored pre until you start spending a couple grand! I got mine for 125 bucks! That's a heck of a deal...

Jacob
 
Hey guys,,, dont get me wrong,, RNC,,,is supposed to be the bollox. As you said,,not much comes anywhere near it , from what i have heard,, but unfortunatly i am restricted to ebay and i aint seen any rnc on auction, so they are out of the question.

I am restricted pretty much to the ones i have listed. They are the ones i am watching anyway.

Hi, ford van,, have you used (or own) the 1066 ????
Would one 1066 be better than 2x 266xl ??? The price is roughly gonna be the same, give or take a few quid,,??
 
I have just added a DBX 166XL to my list as well, just in case anybody has any further opinions to add.
C, mon guys,,, keep em coming.
 
rxkevco said:
I have just added a DBX 166XL to my list as well, just in case anybody has any further opinions to add.
C, mon guys,,, keep em coming.

Ok, here is something to consider. You have to ask yourself what you need and want it for. For example, for me personally, i never use compression during tracking for a level control device (dont really need to at 24bit). However, I use compression during tracking quite a bit - for colour and effect. Therefore, from your list, i would choose the units that can match what i want to hear closest. Something like the RNC, while reportedly really great, would be completely useless for what i use compression for.

So an appropriate question to guide your choice is what do you want it for?
 
rxkevco said:
Hi, ford van,, have you used (or own) the 1066 ????
Would one 1066 be better than 2x 266xl ??? The price is roughly gonna be the same, give or take a few quid,,??

The sound company I work for has a few 1066's.

A used 1066 will usually go for more than a new 266xl. What does that tell you?

Personally, I think the 1066 is their best compressor below the 160 series stuff.

So are you comparing a NEW 266xl price to a USED 1066 when you say the price is going to be roughly the same?

zZounds has the 266 for $150 new.

The cheapest I got a used 1066 off of ebay a year and half ago was for $220. zZounds has the 1066 at $400 new.

From my understanding, the 266xl is their cheapest compressor, then the 166, then the 1066.

So, having used the 166 and 266 and the 1066, I REALLY favor the 1066. In fact, I would rather have it than an RNC any day of the week.

It is 2 channels, fully balanced, and switchable between +4 and -10. Has all the proper controls, and has a very good Peak Limiter. Side chain capable. Somewhat versatile gate (as far as these kind of "dumb gates" go).

The 1066 is a good box.
 
man, well lets see how I throw myself in here....


From the list, I had experience with the dbx 1066. And yeh, like someone already said, you really need to know what you are going to apply this to.

I could tell you the 1066 is pretty transparent, but again, it depends on what you are using it for. It seems to handle well on percussive instruments, so I couldn't say that you would go wrong with that model. However, I was always mixed on it.

I dunno, it's always been a good "if you have no other choice" compressor to me. I think it's strength is that it performs well enough on a number of applications to almost be considered multi purpose. Sufficient bandwidth, sufficient dynamic range, managable limiting, pretty flexible control. Other than that, you simply just have to take it for what it is.

I figure it stands at the top of it's price range.
 
Thanks guys,,,,
Think i have heard what i wanted to hear,,,,,Gonna get the 1066.

I will be using it for a wide variety of tasks, but primarily for tightening up vocals and fattening up the acoustic guitars.
But as i said earlier,, i havent as yet actually used a compressor before.
I am still in the early days of setting up my home studio and Daw, having just gone onto cubase SX3, from a few years of multitracking.
Its going to be a bit of experimentation , to learn about what you can acheive with them,, so just about everything is going to run thru it at some point,, just to gauge its limitations.

Cant beleive i have never used or experimented with compression before,,, i have been playing the guitar for over 25 yrs !!!!!!
Suppose now is better than never !!!

Thanks for all the replies guys,,,
Much appreciated.
 
Diffusion said:
Fmr Rnc..........
it amazes me how many people give useless advice on this board by not answering the simple specific question the poster asked. RNC wasn't one of the options. This is an old thread, but I just wanted to point out that people who post things like Diffusion did here are just wasting everybody's time.
 
rxkevco said:
Hey guys,,, dont get me wrong,, RNC,,,is supposed to be the bollox. As you said,,not much comes anywhere near it , from what i have heard,, but unfortunatly i am restricted to ebay and i aint seen any rnc on auction, so they are out of the question.
Why are you restricted only to ebay? There's an RNC, for £136.82. It's £7 shipping, but if you buy sumthin for another £1 it'll be free(needs to be above 199euros for free shipping, and that's 198).
 
Looking at that list, I think I rather use my Waves' C1 Comp.
 
SRR said:
Old 01-23-2006, 12:21
aha...thanks. Didn't look properly, just saw the 23, and assumed it was yesterday. And dkelley answered today...
 
actually, since this is an old thread that I already re-awakened once (is that a word??), I might as well actually put in some useful feedback to the original poster and to anyone interested in this comparison.

I have used dbx 286 or 386 or whatever their cheap dual is, I hated it.

I own a dbx dual lunchbox 900 series with two 903 over easy compressors in it, pretty much one of their greatest achievements in compression technology (the 160 design) stuck into convenient modules, a great pair of mono compressors with simple controls, but not much variation - one great sound though!

I still use my drawmer dl221 regularly though, it slightly colors the sound in a very very good way and being hard knee and pretty much capable of peak limiting it is one heck of a fun tool on individual drums, on drum buss, on bass guitar (very good on slap bass and bassists that change styles frequently during a performance), and it's just a really solid piece of gear. Bought mine for something crazy like $80 from a guy that didn't know how to change the fuse on the back and thought it was a dead unit. Gotta love those situations...

I also have a dod sr866 - useful and sometimes fun sounding unit, a little noisy though (and not the most musical sounding gates either), and absolutely terrible controls and terrible metering. However still useful, and I always like to keep it around, sometimes believe it or not I prefer it to my other units on drum buss... but the sr866 is kind of my little secret since most people don't bother with it since it only has a few very particular settings that sound great and the rest of the control ranges sound terrible...

Then there's my 3630, which I modded myself from the black lion audio instructions (I bought their kit instructions from them direct back when it was available). Modded it's an absolutely amazing sounding dual compressor, my most used vca-based unit (Even more than my drawmer or dbx 903).

I also have a focusrite optical single channel unit, I love having a very musical optical compressor around, it works well on vocals and great on bass, but has a very different sound from the drawmer or dbx units. Hard to explain, but just different. I admit to sometimes over using it when I get indulgent in the psychedelic rock vocal sound that I love so much...

Prices? all cheap except the focusrite. well ok, the dbx 900 series I got a deal on from a famous musician friend of mine who sold it to me at a bargain price, but still it can be found for not too much if you wait and watch the ads. 3630? don't pay more than $100 US (less preferably, mine was $80 CDN), then another $50 to $80 for kit parts and instructions to mod it, sounds like a $2000 unit (sort of like the units I use professionally but don't own myself, I can give examples when I'm not rushing so much!). DOD unit should be dirt cheap, dod themselves don't even support the unit any longer. drawmer, well, maybe $200 or less, depends on how lucky you are. All useful, although stock 3630's aren't terribly studio friendly due to several known bugs in their circuit design, easily fixed with a couple of days of soldering and a few parts from mail order electronic supply stores (talk to black lion audio to see if they still offer that though first, I love those guys but they may not sell the kit or instructions any longer).

Long answer, hopefully useful to someone out there. I'm fairly experienced, but I'm not a high end gear collector really (aside from some mics). I use all levels of gear in pro studios regularly as a producer and sometimes as engineer, so I hope that I can help someone new to this with a bit of decision making. There are lots of people on this board who know tons more than I do though, so I defer to the true experts who post after me. Also, tastes differ....

Cheers,
Don Kelley
 
dkelley said:
it amazes me how many people give useless advice on this board by not answering the simple specific question the poster asked. RNC wasn't one of the options. This is an old thread, but I just wanted to point out that people who post things like Diffusion did here are just wasting everybody's time.

If it's somebody who's in the know about those choices, and knows there's a better choice in the same price range, I think that's useful, not useless advice.

Best practice is probably "Of those choices, I'd pick x, but you should really think about........"
 
Robert D said:
If it's somebody who's in the know about those choices, and knows there's a better choice in the same price range, I think that's useful, not useless advice.

Best practice is probably "Of those choices, I'd pick x, but you should really think about........"

very true, good recommendation for posters here! :-)

Don
 
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