Where have I been? What's with all the small low wattage heads these days...

[DrewPeterson7]

Understood about genre. I sold my original bfdr back when and up traded for the showman, because when we did the high school proms, the gym swallowed the little combo amp. Great amp though. You've got a good one.

Also realize too, the singers where the only ones using the PA. hhhhmmm that says a lot there, eh?

If I had to guess, that probably had more to do with the huge amount of echo making the drums (very attack-y) absolutely blow up while doing less for the guitar.

Anyway, my experience has been even in small club settings, odds are you're going to be mic'd up. This actually works in your favor - most PA systems have better projection than guitar combos- but even in worst-=case-scenario mode, I've only once played a gig unmic'd where 25 or so watts wasn't enough to cut, and I was told we were PAINFULLY loud that night.

 

[starbuck26]

didn't like the presets, right?

The tonelab aint no slouch, as is the X3 live or the GT-10/8. You gotta twiddle and have a goal to shoot for and not expect to just "land" on a good sound by picking numbers and adding chorus/delay.

But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt you've put one thru its' paces, but I have to think you didn't tweak enough. Amps are nice though. No arguments there.

Of the multifx pedals I think the Vox Tonelab is the best, no doubt.

I just couldn't imagine playing without standing in front of an amp. But I imagine we're doing very different things. Feedback is probably not so important to you I assume.

Plus... without an amp, where the hell do you put your beer?

 

[Roguetitan]

that's like eating chicken soup with a knife.

Hahahahahahaaaa LMAO
that is funny

 

[mixmkr]

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Plus... without an amp, where the hell do you put your beer?

In your belly!!

Actually floor wedges get my guitar to vibrate sympathetically enough to be a Jimi wanabe, but you're right, it is different with amps. Or...I'll use compression for sustain, which 99% of the time is enough. The Gt-8 has a feedbacker effect on it, similar to the Ebow, but I never really use it. I'd be interested in a Sustainiac though.

I'd probably have to learn how to "ride an amp" all over again...unless that's something you just don't forget

 

[ggunn]

The Gt-8 has a feedbacker effect on it, similar to the Ebow, but I never really use it.

The Ebow is really different. Feedbacker floor units just sample your signal and loop it; it's stuck on one note until you release it. The Ebow actually vibrates the strings and you can change the note that it is sustaining.

 

[mixmkr]

The Ebow is really different. Feedbacker floor units just sample your signal and loop it; it's stuck on one note until you release it. The Ebow actually vibrates the strings and you can change the note that it is sustaining.

Yeah...I must say I have both and use neither. But I've never put more than a couple hours effort into either effect also. Therefore, I still believe my wallet will fix my playing!! (lol!) Both units will morph into an octave effect too, as you probably know.

thus the lust for the Sustaniac pickup.

But I also use a Roland GR33 floor synth, and with a nice pad or string patch behind my guitar sound, it's shoved me in a different direction. Not that I don't still love cranked amps now! A violent pad and a power chord....hhhmmm. That'll flutter your trousers

 

[Double]

Way back I started with a Marshall half stack split in stereo one side running a Marshall plexi 50 watt the other side was a 80 watt Fender Twin Reverb cut down to a Head, sounded great, very loud and after about 10 years a real drag to haul around. With better sound systems in clubs I moved to a Fender Vibro King and a 70’s Fender Vibrolux Reverb again sounded great, lots of volume but again with multiple guitars plus a pedal board way to much stuff to move around. I am now down to two blonde Blues Juniors with Vintage 30’s speakers, ok sounding and easy to move great for clubs and small venues. Now after about 2 years of running this rig I am missing the tone of the older amps. I now am looking seriously at a couple of these new 20 watt heads and maybe a 2X12 cabinet.
After years of hauling all this shit around the only conclusion I have come to is with today’s monitoring systems you do not need a tube amp over 20 watts to get a good stage volume in a club. If you are playing a lot of outdoor gigs or large venues I can see using a 50 watt tube amp but anymore is not really needed.