When You Loved Me Good

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Here's another one of my friend's songs that I'm mixing. This one is more country-y. I had a hard time with the 75-150hz region - this is the first one of his I've mixed recently which features electric guitar - Tele with Twin Reverb, and it was more difficult than I would have thought.

Anyway, comments are appreciated. Do you all think this needs drums?

 
Geez. This is a really nice mix.

Yes, at some point I longed for drums, but maybe partly just because you asked. It's a pretty mellow number as is, and maybe it's meant to be. When things like the backing vocals kick in, it's got all the more impact as it's somewhat sparse leading up to it.

I thought the tele was captured very well. It sounded smooth and articulate with nice verb. That definitely sounds like a twin. The solo was a real treat.
 
Thanks!
heatmiser said:
The solo was a real treat.
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Yeah, generally I can keep from feeling jealous because I don't sing and don't write songs in this genre, but as a guitar player myself, I had the perverse jealous urge to make the solo sound worse at one point :) - I resisted - it's really nice.
 
antichef said:
Thanks!
Yeah, generally I can keep from feeling jealous because I don't sing and don't write songs in this genre, but as a guitar player myself, I had the perverse jealous urge to make the solo sound worse at one point :) - I resisted - it's really nice.
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As nice as the super clean sound is, on the lead, I was wondering what it would've been like if he'd gotten it to break up just a little bit. I've used twins before jamming with other people, but it's been a long time since I've recorded one. It takes quite a bit of volume to get them to saturate even a little bit, doesn't it?
 
To me this song needs more grit and attitude, but mix wise it's sounding pretty good. The presentation method doesn't give a time when I listen, but there is a "plosive" at about 20-25% of the way through when the lyric sounds like "I couldn't Paint a perfect picture".
 
Tobe said:
To me this song needs more grit and attitude, but mix wise it's sounding pretty good. The presentation method doesn't give a time when I listen, but there is a "plosive" at about 20-25% of the way through when the lyric sounds like "I couldn't Paint a perfect picture".
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thanks! I'll look into the plosive.

By not giving a time, do you mean a tempo/time signature? You think adding drums is the ticket?
 
I do find the low end to be a little boomy in the guitar tracks. There's also a lot of backing hiss, lip smacks, breathing, and a little noise here and there. That stuff doesn't bother me personally, but the customer might not want it. I don't think it needs drums, but maybe a little hand percussion, shaker, tambourine, or something could come in during the chorus.
 
LOVE that voice. I was expecting the worst when you said country, but that angelic voice is no country voice.

When you ask if it needs drums, I am wondering what is the purpose of the song. If you mean it for the radio, then it definitely needs more. It would be almost perfect for radio with a few good solid thuds in the background, maybe even just the bare minimums of drums, but something. If you mean it for a demo for a label then it's probably fine like this. If you mean it for the Internet only, it's probably okay.

Love the choir in the background.

JJ.
 
Wonderful. When I listen to stuff on this forum I listen to hear if a song is amateur sounding or professional sounding. At no point does this sound amateur. The lack of drums keeps it sounding lonely which is a very good thing.
 
Downloaded!!

Great song, great mix. Again. You're doing this guy a real service.

I'd like to hear it with drums coming in with the solo or halfway through the solo. Maybe carry through the verse/chorus after the solo and then stop before the outro.

I hear a lot of hiss at the end and some bad edits after the last note is struck. A little clean up will work.

Thanks for posting this.
 
Sorry I wasn't clearer antichef,

I was talking about the player that came up when I clicked on it (which on my system didn't show the time of the plosive). I should have downloaded it and put it on my mp3 player.

I'm not sure if it needs drums, it could be one of those things where you spend a lot of time and end up deciding where you started is better. If you can't resist then some incidental percussion as Greg suggested may be worth experimenting with.
 
thanks a million again guys. I forgot to use the de-noiser plugin on the electric guitar tracks, and I'll go clean up more. I asked him about the breathing, and he said he doesn't mind having it there. I don't have a dedicated de-breather plugin (I know they exist), but I have found myself utterly incapable of editing out breaths on acoustic tracks unless the guitar happens to not be playing at the same time (then it's easy :) ).

I'll also work with drums a little.

Tobe said:
I was talking about the player that came up when I clicked on it (which on my system didn't show the time of the plosive). I should have downloaded it and put it on my mp3 player.
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I get it now, and it seems clear enough now that you say what was going on. You provided plenty enough info to isolate and HPF out that plosive, which I already did locally. Thanks!
 
I like this. A lot. It's lovely. Sweet sounding. Mellow. I didn't miss drums. Not to say they couldn't work. I'm just sayin' I didn't think about them when listening. Plenty going on for me to be more than happy as it is. This is a real sweet tune. Why HR, is there no heart or love symbol for the chicks? :D
 
Nice tune.....really. :cool:

The overall vibe is great....BUT...I'm finding that the clarity of the lyrics is getting lost a lot, and I think for this type of tune, the lyrics are very important.
It's not that the vocals are done bad...I just think 1.) they could be a bit louder and 2.) I think the guitar boom/ambience may be masking the clarity of the vocals.
Make some more room for them....maybe get the guitar out of the center so it's not fighting the vocals as much.

But these are minor tweaks...so I don't mean to imply it's a bad mix...just could use some more definition in the vocals, especially since it's really just guitar and vocals for the most part, so you should be bale to get that open airy vibe without them on top of each other.
 
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