Whats your SECRET????

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Hey guyz....i'm sitting here at home and wondering how the hell am i gonna make an success of ever breaking into the music industry....well so i thought, hey lets just make a thread then everyone can say what they do to maybe do advertising or publish their shit...everyone used their own way, i'll bet we can learn from everyones techniques....

at the moment i'm just advertising on a website, but no success...

WHAT DO U DO AND HOW DO U DO IT ?

care 2 share ?
 
I can't give you many secrets, then there will be more competition ;)
But I can tell you one secret.

Not one person can do it on their own (or the odds are against them). A team, and things start becoming more productive. For instance, if I want to take Chicago's music scene, I will hire a team to do it for me. ;)
 
My secret is to be lazy and to not market my music in any significant way at all.

Oh wait, you're looking for tips to get people to actually listen to your music aren't you? My secret is for getting them to ignore it... :D
 
Become a serious musician and people will flock. Scouts have had enough with amateurs, even Andy Sneap has.
 
Well, I'm not out doing it myself, but gigging is a great way to get heard. Connect with your audience and give them something worth buying.

Another tack is to target a very specific audience and then advertise to them. I've written a bunch of sailing/cruising songs and just got my cd back from the mastering engineer. I've already got one magazine wondering where the heck it is because they want to put it up on their internet radio and sell it in their online store.

I don't think a web presence itself is a means to advertise effectively, but your website or myspace is a central location to send everyone who sees you or hears of you to go check your music out.

Nowadays, for a record label to be looking at you, you have to have booked shows and cd sales to give proof that people want to buy your music. Then they'll want to talk with you.

Another route is to write songs and get performing artists to record them. That's a whole 'nuther world and it's very competitive.

Cheers,
 
Become a serious musician and people will flock. Scouts have had enough with amateurs, even Andy Sneap has.

There is some truth in that, but unfortunately that is not always the case. Almost All the most talented bands I have ever know were virtually unknown and had to break up because of money issues. Sometimes in America marketing is more important than the quality of music.....
 
Along with all of the above, LUCK is a factor that cannot be left out.........:)
 
I did not do anything for those recordings, sadly. I just shill it because I feel that competitive eating needs all the positive press it can get.
 
My secret is bob baker books. Fan fucking tastic books for promotion.

-HyPe
 
My secret is bob baker books. Fan fucking tastic books for promotion.

-HyPe

I have to agree that Bob Bakers books are amazing! I ordered them to help me market RAMI's music and I learned a lot from them.

However, reading anything from Derek Silvers from CDBaby is great too. He is a marketing marvel.
 
My band are trying to do everything we can to become a bit better known and its very tough. We're finding that the gigs we're getting, we're getting out of luck and just because we ARE a band, with gear. Rather than on the strength of our music. From everyone who's heard us (admitidly not thousends at this stage!) we've never heard a bad word said about us but its just getting the gigs. The only time people want to give an unsiged band a gig is if they can bring 30 of their friends with them. Which on one hand is fair enough as they have to make their money, but understandably most of our fans are from our hometown and they see us here, why would they wanna travel a hundred miles to see us or whatever. Its depressing just how little feedback you get, i'd welcome even bad feedback. "you need to write better songs", anything would be good.

So i guess i dont know what the secret is yet, and the only solution is to keep trying untill you do.

www.captainanstis.com (My band)
 
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writers never get ANYwhere, unless they are already a writer...

Dont bands have agents anymore? You finally impress some agent with your demo, HES supposed to know how to open doors for you...

because if the requirement for a label is, as said above... "proven to sell out large places" and "proven to sell CD's already"...

if one already had THAT going on, what would you need a label for? LMAO
 
There is some truth in that, but unfortunately that is not always the case. Almost All the most talented bands I have ever know were virtually unknown and had to break up because of money issues. Sometimes in America marketing is more important than the quality of music.....

Marketing is where it's at for sure. A&R Reps are looking maybe at about 20% towards musical talent! XD probably another 20% in stage presence/performance value. The other 60% is how large of a crowd can you draw and how well do you market yourself.

Bottom line: if people like you, drop an e-mail to an A&R on that label you want to be on with your myspace link (should have some decent recordings on it) and if you're lucky they'll come out to a show and if you're what they're looking for, you're in. But the band doesn't need to be good, just get a lot of people to follow so cash is made. That's the music business for you.

Of course, all is easier said than done. Even typing it out makes it sound easy! XD If only it was that easy.

-RageD
 
Marketing is where it's at for sure. A&R Reps are looking maybe at about 20% towards musical talent! XD probably another 20% in stage presence/performance value. The other 60% is how large of a crowd can you draw and how well do you market yourself.

Bottom line: if people like you, drop an e-mail to an A&R on that label you want to be on with your myspace link (should have some decent recordings on it) and if you're lucky they'll come out to a show and if you're what they're looking for, you're in. But the band doesn't need to be good, just get a lot of people to follow so cash is made. That's the music business for you.

Of course, all is easier said than done. Even typing it out makes it sound easy! XD If only it was that easy.

-RageD

I can see that because this the music business, there are many people out there that do not understand how the other side works, but will come to the assumption that we don't look for talent at all, or meir 20% of it... no

95% of artists sound alike. The rest are innovative, creative, and carry a following. 90% of their music isn't even worth listening to. It just wastes time. Remember this though, Stage Presence is damn near just as important as the music itself. A great artist doesn't just paint the picture with the music, but also sells it to the crowd, lets the fans envision what he/she envisioned. Everything else follows.

IF people want talent on the radio so to speak ,stop sending shit in.

Labels provide larger budgets, and resources that bands do not have access to and never will. Internet or no internet.
 
There is no "secret" to success in any business. It is a combination of many things - among them: skill, knowledge, hard work, determination and luck - and perhaps in the entertainment industry you could also add "appearance" (which I think falls under luck - some people have the good luck to be good looking).

At some point, if "success" seems to be knocking, an artist will likely need other people to lend additional skills and knowledge (booking agents, a manager, a lawyer, etc.) - as someone else indicated - it is a rare person that can do it all.

In the music industry (music business), you need a certain amount of skill - singing, performing, writing, etc. You also need "people skills" - working with talented people often means working with large egos. You also need knowledge - in particular business knowledge (marketing, finances, etc.) - which can range anywhere from how to get gigs to how to book a studio, etc.

Skills and knowledge can be acquired from any number of sources: on line, libraries, teachers, etc. - improving skills and knowledge is simply a matter of time, effort and dedication.

However, more than any other factor, perhaps determination is the key. You have to be willing to work at your craft every day, take whatever gigs you can to advance yourself - do whatever it takes. Successful people often sleep less, watch TV less and in general waste less time on things that will not make them successful.

While luck may be a factor I have never placed that much faith in luck. There is an old saying to the effect "the harder I work, the luckier I get" - which I believe in. Each of us makes our own luck - in large part by being prepared when an opportunity comes along.

During the last 40 years I've worked with hundreds of musicians - at various levels of success - and I have found the ones who work the hardest, spend the most time and effort and are the most willing to sacrifice other things in life to succeed...........do tend to be the most successful.
 
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