Whats the deal with this forum section?

[legionserial]

The real reason that traffic is slow in here is that most people who make threads in this forum are using pirated versions of Cubase. People here hate pirates. The legit users all post at Cubase.net.

I have a legit Cubase, and don't post on Cubase.net at all because they won't let me register on the forums with a hotmail address. So fuck them basically. I aint getting a new email address just for that. HR.com has been more than helpful enough, and I was reading HR.com before I had Cubase anyway. However I do the odd search on Cubase.net if I have a problem, and yes it does usually come up with a good result. Its just a shame I am not allowed to post because of my 'lower/hotmail class citizen' status. And yes I know (kind of) their reasons for it. Its still lame tho.

Also I read the manual....which significantly cuts down on the neccessity to post questions.

Seriously tho, thats why there aren't so many postings on this forum, cos most Cubase users tend to read the manual I guess. A lot of the questions on here are the basic things you learn in the getting started guide that comes with Cubase. Or as was stated before, they are using nicked software, and obviously dont know how to use a help file.

 

[legionserial]

Now, short of doing anything illegal, I'll use the software I purchased any way I please.

When I bought Cubase I knew nothing of this little useless POS security hardware key. Had I known about its intent I most likely would have rethought the purchase. Yeah, Steinberg can instigate any policy they want in their 'business model', but that doesn't make them correct and doesn't give people like you a reason to call me immature for expressing a differing opinion.

A little bit of reading up on the £500 bit of software you were about to buy would have made it painfully obvious that there was a dongle involved. Its mentioned everywhere, by everyone. And usually they are complaining about it too.

 

[djhead]

+1 to the easy to use-ness.

Every problem I have had was in the manual or herre on the forum.
Plus im only using LE. What am I missing out on BTW? SHould I go pirate SX3?

 

[6gun]

A little bit of reading up on the £500 bit of software you were about to buy would have made it painfully obvious that there was a dongle involved. Its mentioned everywhere, by everyone. And usually they are complaining about it too.

After the fact, my man. After the fact.

I generally purchase from word of mouth. Enough people like it, fine, I'll try it. It's okay though, I haven't lost any sleep over this dongle thing. Good or bad, it's revealing into the companies mindset. I happen to disagree with it. So what.

On the positive, It's a very good program. As I stated in my first post on this thread, easy to use and does what it's suppose to.

 

[fraserhutch]

I didn't call you immature for expressing another opinion, I said that calling Steinberg nazis for their protection was immature. There is a HUGE difference.

And my point is is that Steinberg is RIGHT to impose whatever security they desire. What I don't get is YOUR calling them incorrect. On whose grounds? The fact that you don't like their licensing scheme? It's YOUR responsibility to research a product before you buy it, and you right to decline to buy it.

THE VERY FACT YOU PURCHASED THE SOFTWARE implies that you agree with the license. In fact, you have to indicate that you did.

Now, short of doing anything illegal, I'll use the software I purchased any way I please.

When I bought Cubase I knew nothing of this little useless POS security hardware key. Had I known about its intent I most likely would have rethought the purchase. Yeah, Steinberg can instigate any policy they want in their 'business model', but that doesn't make them correct and doesn't give people like you a reason to call me immature for expressing a differing opinion.

 

[6gun]

THE VERY FACT YOU PURCHASED THE SOFTWARE implies that you agree with the license. In fact, you have to indicate that you did.

Yes I did. Next time I won't be as quick to purchase.

No sleep lost regardless.

 

[MCreel]

6gun makes a very valid point though.

I understand the use of the dongle as to prevent multiple people from using one cd.....but if you have to have the dongle in to use it then whats the purpose of not being able to license on more than 1 computer. It doesn't matter if I have it on 20 machines if I can only use one at a time.

 

[NYMorningstar]

6gun makes a very valid point though.

I understand the use of the dongle as to prevent multiple people from using one cd.....but if you have to have the dongle in to use it then whats the purpose of not being able to license on more than 1 computer. It doesn't matter if I have it on 20 machines if I can only use one at a time.

You can license it on more than one machine. You just need to buy the additional license.

 

[IainDearg]

How much does Steinberg charge if you lose it?

The answer to this question in important. I'm a member over at Cubase.net and this question comes up frequently there. Everyone should know that Steinbeg policy is that lost Dongles will not be replaced. They keep strictly to that policy. You can get a replacement installation disc for a nominal fee, but not the dongle. The best advice if you do lose it is to claim under your house insurance. If you don't have that, then insure it by some other means.

Cheers.

 

[utsman]

Cubase Le doesn't need a dongle, and while it may be a lesser version, I have never found it lacking. But you can only get this version with Hardware.

UTSMAN

 

[stingx]

It's costs about $20 bucks at Sam Ash to buy a new dongle. If you took the time to register your product online, you can get the information back from Steinberg and get it back onto your dongle. Problem solved.

 

[Superhuman]

Re the first post in the thread (slightly off topic now though!) I stopped using the Cubase forum because there was so much flaming and paranoia/suspicion/unfounded accusations etc about people using pirated versions of Cubase. I have a registered copy myself but every time I posted a question I got 5 smart comments about checking the manual of my 'pirated' software. So I stopped coming here, this is the first time I've stopped by in months. I would understand it if it was a steinberg forum and you had to enter your registration code to access the forum but this is supposed to be users helping each other out. I reckon if users just focused on using the software and helping those with problems (ignoring the obvious posts re pirate copies) that this forum would get 10 times more traffic (I can already feel the heat from a thousand flames!). ;-)

 

[fraserhutch]

I am happy to help registered users. Not pirates.

Re the first post in the thread (slightly off topic now though!) I stopped using the Cubase forum because there was so much flaming and paranoia/suspicion/unfounded accusations etc about people using pirated versions of Cubase. I have a registered copy myself but every time I posted a question I got 5 smart comments about checking the manual of my 'pirated' software. So I stopped coming here, this is the first time I've stopped by in months. I would understand it if it was a steinberg forum and you had to enter your registration code to access the forum but this is supposed to be users helping each other out. I reckon if users just focused on using the software and helping those with problems (ignoring the obvious posts re pirate copies) that this forum would get 10 times more traffic (I can already feel the heat from a thousand flames!). ;-)

 

[djhead]

(I can already feel the heat from a thousand flames!). ;-)

They make a cream fer that ya' know

 

[6gun]

I reckon if users just focused on using the software and helping those with problems (ignoring the obvious posts re pirate copies) that this forum would get 10 times more traffic (I can already feel the heat from a thousand flames!). ;-)

Point made. 'Clueless' and 'pirate' do not always go hand in hand.

 

[cortexx]

I think that calling Steingberg nazis for wanting to protect their product is infantile. You have no right to dictate their business model, and are free to purchase whatever software you desire. In fact, you have the to vote on their policies by using your checkbook and NOT buy their product.

I mean cmon Fraser surely it's the same as getting a license plate for a car and then sharing it with my other 2 vehicles , i mean damn , i can only drive one at a time. This isn't illegal is it ?

I also lend it to Mrs jones down the street because she has large breasts and is learning to drive but doesnt know if she'll take her test yet . surely I can lend out my license plates to someone to "try" out driving before they commit themselves and buy their own!

And when i bought my car it came with keys ( oh my god ) and they wont work on my other cars. WTF is up with that? shouldn't the keys work on my other cars too?

Toyota are Nazi's for putting locks on my Rav4 and making me carry keys around for it.



Just joking with you guys , it's canada day and i'm full of grolsch lager and i'm about to try and set the neighbours house on fire with some very precisely aimed roman candles

 

[noisewreck]

You can license it on more than one machine. You just need to buy the additional license.

You are missing McCreel's point. His point is that if you can use it only on one machine at a time, then why do you have to fork out for more licenses, just to install the software (not more dongles, just multiple copies of the software on multiple computers, but one dongle)?

But, McCreel, I didn't realise you needed to get mor licenses to just install the software on more than one machine... My understanding was that you can install the software itself on as many machines as you like, and them just move the dongle from machine to machine. I may be wrong about this though.