What You Were Meant to Be

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WOW, I really like it. Takes me back to the 70s. And around 2:00 I love the lead geetar! It just is not long enough. You have a good thing going there, run with it! :D
Who is doing what on here? It all sounds good, I am just curious. By the way I did listen five times. ;)
 
Hi True. Steve plays bass and rhythm guitars and I do the other odds and ends. I'm glad you like the guitar solos, I'm not a very good lead player but after 400 or so attempts I managed to strangle those out. I'm glad it's over - it was the last thing holding us up.

-Casey
 
Supercreep said:
Hi True. Steve plays bass and rhythm guitars and I do the other odds and ends. I'm glad you like the guitar solos, I'm not a very good lead player but after 400 or so attempts I managed to strangle those out. I'm glad it's over - it was the last thing holding us up.

-Casey
LOL, you did real well on the odds and ends. I do think I asked that same question before, but I do forget things. :D Anyway, I liked your new song.
It has a Mcartney type flavor. I really am not big on telling a musician, they sound like another, rather that it is a flavor of them. Man, I am on a food kick tonight. I just told RAMI he was seasoned, as if I were going to cook him, and now I am flavoring you dudes.... :eek: :D :D I best shut up now before I get myself into hot water.
 
Another cool tune, guys. I will try and comment more on the mix, and production this time, as the song itself is damn fine. Geee, trying to be hard on ya, just cuz I have listened to everything you've done, but not much I think someone could improve. Personally, I'd like to hear more of the deeper tones, but that comes more from what I normally listen to. Too much deep stuff may blow this song up. Drums are just great, and the guitar tone is way cool. The clean guitar at the start is very clear. I'd like to hear more deep tones in the bass, but again, that is just a personal preference. That might ruin your song, so......

Vocals....Man....What can I say? NADT!!!! Very good. I'd say you have another great tune on your hands. Cool.
Ed
 
Oh man. I love anything that even remotely reminds me of the Beatles, and this is very Beatlish while staying original. I always try to find something to criticise so people don't think I'm just patting them on the back, but I can't find anything to improve here. Awesome vocals and vocal arrngement. Maybe a slightly louder bass, but it's fine. It takes some balls to keep the drums this dry. I've said I'd do that to so many of my songs, only to chicken out and put reverb on them at mix-down time. Guitar arrangement, perfect. At one point, there's what sounds like a Rhodes coming out of the left side. Perfect. I really dig this tune, man. I'll be playing it over and over.
 
This song has a lot of attention grabbing spots and as I’m listening now here are a few I notice:
:24 drum entry… yeah, I’m noticing a difference in sound quality of the drums.
:40 staccato vocal rhythmic figure startles the listener into realizing that wait... the sweet nature of the arrangment here isn't all that's going on
:42 bass entry has a big impact sonically
:56 chromatic descending guitar line… and the way it resolves at the end of phrases.
2:04 vocal harmony and mystical tone to the arrangement, Rhodes piano sound, the way the phrase builds as it goes
2:27 hot guitar solo hints at the White album.
3:07 very solid overall arrangement at the song’s peak, strong vocals, drumset clarity, especially the cymbals at 3:35, adds a lot here.
3:56 BG vocals, the way they sound against the chromatic gtr line. Perfect way to slowly ease the intensity of the peak that just happened and start to lead the song out subtly.

Only two minor suggestions:
When the bass enters at :42 the 3rd and 4th measures of that phrase maybe could have a more varied repetition of the previous two bars… maybe just a different turn of the bass line
The guitar solo at 2:27 could maybe be a little hotter level.

Great job.

Tim
 
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Thanks, folks, for listening.

Tim, what a cool analysis of the song. It's great knowing that some people really listen to a song closely. I appreciate it. I agree that the guitar solo level is not exactly right yet. Very close, though. It was harder than I thought it was going to be to put that in right.

Dogman, I'm afraid I've gotten rather fond of the Geddy Lee, John Entwistle, and the guy from NoMeansNo (I think it's Rob Wright), type of bass sound. Trebley, with tube distortion (or a reasonable facsimile) is what I love. It's difficult to get exactly right. I did this one on my J-Bass bridge pickup for a deeper, wood sort of tone. Maybe we could add some low EQ at mastering to thicken up the song a bit? To drastic? I'm not sure. We'll try a few things.

And Rami, we just like things dry. I had some reverb on the snare, but it just seemed to set it further back in the mix, so we bailed on it. We do use it sparingly sometimes, though. And yep, it's an elec. piano in the middle, along with an organ, amped and mic'd.
 
Incanus said:
Dogman, I'm afraid I've gotten rather fond of the Geddy Lee, John Entwistle, and the guy from NoMeansNo (I think it's Rob Wright), type of bass sound. Trebley, with tube distortion (or a reasonable facsimile) is what I love. It's difficult to get exactly right. I did this one on my J-Bass bridge pickup for a deeper, wood sort of tone. Maybe we could add some low EQ at mastering to thicken up the song a bit? To drastic? I'm not sure. We'll try a few things.
Don't change a thing tone wise. It might not fit the song, or style you are trying to capture. I have so much trouble figuring out what tones to use on my own stuff, as it can drastically alter the music. This fits, keep it.
Ed
 
Dogman said:
Don't change a thing tone wise. It might not fit the song, or style you are trying to capture. I have so much trouble figuring out what tones to use on my own stuff, as it can drastically alter the music. This fits, keep it.
Ed

I hear ya, brother-man. It's hard to decide on a tone sometimes.
Despite our music being, mellow, dynamic, non-edgy, non-aggressive, light, whatever, I still want it to sound BIG if possible. I love heavy stuff too, and we may do some (sort of) here and there. Just picked up the new Audioslave a few days ago. Diggin it. Huge CC fan.
 
I wish I could think of something more constructive to say, but just wanted to tell you that I dig this tune. As has been stated, very Beatlesque, late sixties/early seventies feel.

I am a huge fan of vocal harmonies, and wish I could get mine to sound like that....I can only make out two distinctly, but it sounds awfully full for just two harmonies...do I suspect correctly that you've got another one hidden in there somewhere?
 
Boo Radley said:
I wish I could think of something more constructive to say, but just wanted to tell you that I dig this tune. As has been stated, very Beatlesque, late sixties/early seventies feel.

I am a huge fan of vocal harmonies, and wish I could get mine to sound like that....I can only make out two distinctly, but it sounds awfully full for just two harmonies...do I suspect correctly that you've got another one hidden in there somewhere?


Thanks very much, Boo. You're right, the chorus is a diad, but of two or more tracks each. The bridge is a three part harmony of two or more tracks each, but the lines arent parallel throughout. There is some awkward harmony produced on the "storytellers" line... I'm not sure I like it yet.



-Casey
 
lots of pops in the vox, some human, some machine, none massive.

digging these git sounds more than the last ones (less middey, still a little room for improvement though)
the snare tale is killed a little hard for me, just seems to end abruptly (when alone enough to get super critical)
bass sound is more to my likeing
vox sound better

toms need just a little tweaking-i'd like the attack to be higher in freq.

to me, the sound is much improved over the last sound of yours i heard.

by which i mean.......... dam, good job!
 
...got no real vocabulary to express myself here - just to say I really enjoyed listening to it, and the way it made me feel..... :D

I wish I had the frame of reference to break down what I liked about it....I could say something about harmonies, and changes, and the mix....but I'd be in way over my head....I just found it to be Most Excellent!! :cool:
 
giraffe said:
toms need just a little tweaking-i'd like the attack to be higher in freq.


Thanks, 'Raffe. How do I do that?

-Casey
 
here i go guessing again

maby boost a little at around 4-5k
and cut around 400......

but if it was mine i'd "fish" with an eq for a while before i actually setteled on anything.
 
Supercreep said:
Thanks, 'Raffe. How do I do that?

-Casey


I'd say, Creep, roll off the reverb a bit, maybe some slight eq, and compress slightly with a slower attack to let the initial smack through and tame the ring down. We'll try it at some point.
 
I enjoyed this one, guys. Nice arrangement and performances. A busy bassline, but fits the song well. The drums are a tad too loud for my taste and the open hat sound is a little grating. Overall, great work.
 
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