What is your favorite reference music

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What are your favorite mixes to listen to as a reference? What is, in your opinion, the album with the best production value?

I can't believe I haven't seen this thread yet. (maybe I just missed it)
 
This topic has definitely been covered before, but I couldn't find the thread(s) by searching.

Basically, I think a mixing reference should meet the following criteria:

1. Music that is a style similar to what you do. - i.e., if you're recording primarily rap, then Yanni is not going to be a good reference, etc.

2. Music that you are intimately familiar with - pick albums that you have listened to dozens, if not hundreds, of times on numerous playback systems.

3. Music that you feel is recorded/mixed/mastered well - either the whole album or specific parts. Maybe you like the snare sound on one song, or the bass on another.

Essentially, my mixing references may be totally different than yours. If you want general albums that are considered "good" from a production standpoint, listen to some Steely Dan, Pink Floyd, etc.

I use the following artists/albums a lot:

Amos Lee - Supply & Demand
Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left
Pernice Brothers - Yours, Mine & Ours; Overcome by Happiness
The Shins - Chutes Too Narrow
Duncan Sheik - Duncan Sheik
Rhett Miller - The Instigator
Seal - (1994)
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Big Head Todd & the Monsters - Sister Sweetly
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Steely Dan - Aja
 
This topic comes up probably once a month at least. Just do a search on "Steely Dan" :D

But allow be to present an opposing point of view to what Scrubs put on the table. Scrubs and I are usually on the same page on most issues. I respect his opinion and I understand where he is coming from with his first point.

However, I believe that while it's important to hear what others are doing within a genre, to concentrate on listening to only that flavor of recording or music that one is currently doing the majority of their work in is extremely limiting and can lead to a very boring homoginity in one's productions (if one is an independent engineer) and in one's music (if one is an independent musician.)

To my tastes and experience, many of the very best recorded productions are those that, if not defy conventions, at least incorporate engineering or musical ideas from areas of music that may not seem obvious at first blush. Actually, many examples within Scrubs' recommended list incorporate just such fusion. Duncan Sheik, Michael Jackson, Pink Floyd, Steely Dan, and even in some degree Big Head Todd, all in the albums mentioned incorporate many musical and engineering styles and techniques normally considered the normal jurisdiction of styles and genres other than that in which the band or performer is normally associated.

Personally I believe that there are many hip hop artists and producers that can get quite a lot of useful ideas out of a Yanni disc...and vice versa.

As far as the OP question itself, I'd like to take a different tack and say for the best sonic inspiration, turn off your CD player or MP3 player and get out to live events. I'm not talking big barn rock concerts, I'm talking small clubs where you can sit up close and watch and hear everything from jazz trios to quality 5-piece rock cover bands to dance DJs. I'm talking the really good ones who make a living out of it and have been doing so for 15 years or more.

The idea here is to listen closely and critically, hear what good instruments when played well and sung well really sound like. What a hi hat sounds like when you really actually listen to it, and when you hear it w/o benefit of microphones or EQs. How the vocalist sounds and how they work the microphone with their head and how that changes the sound. How the bass actually feels and integrates with the rest of the mix. And so on.

This may not directly give you recipes for mixing, but I don't think that's a bad thing. Use this experience to give you inspiration as to how great things sound and how much better they really sound in real life. Then use that appreciation to start imagining in your head how you could put together such great sounds in a great mix.

Even more, listen to the live mix - which is almost always going to be problematic compared to a studio mix - and as the band is playing, listen to it and imagine how you'd want it to sound different on your recording. is the guitar too loud or too soft? Can you actually hear the keyboard? Is the vocal too bassy or too nasaly? Is the arrangement flat and boring or dynamic and exciting? etc.

Then take all that back to your studio and build your own composition based upon those experiences and inspirations.

G.
 
I tend not to listen to any CD's before or during mixing. I find that if I do, everything I do in mixing ends up being relative to the sound I hear on the CD. I prefer to just go in with a fresh set of ears and have at it till it sounds good.

That said, occassionally I might reference it against something. More often than not, it tends to be Megadeth's 'Rust In Peace. Just an album I really like the sound of, that hasn't had the crap squished out of it. The fact that its a while old and obviously quieter than todays releases gives me a more realistic goal to shoot for in a way. And as such I always reference that CD when when giving a tune a (very) slight volume boost: "If it's louder than Rust In Peace, then I don't like it".
 
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