What is a Mic Pre for?

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Sometimes you learn as you go eh? WTF!

We knew enough to know the Avalon was good for vocals and guitars , thats what we bought it for, I just wasnt clear on why it made things sound better thats all. I wanted to make sure I understood what a pre emp is used for so we could maximize what we are using.
We just werent sure what else, we should use it for .


We werent heavily schooled on every aspect of every piece opf equipment before we bought it, like I said man, we are a band trying to engineer our own record, we are just home schooling it.

Some article somewhere, said Avalon with a good mic would be good, so we just went for it, because sometimes you just gotta go for it. Niave ? Maybe, but hey it works.
Too much money?
We dont have too much money obviously if it took 3 people to pitch in for it. We didnt put our money toward alot of other stuff in return! We lack alot of what alot of you mayt consider necessary, but I won't get into that.

We just felt it was worth investing in that (vocals) aspect of our studio , and I tell you, it's been worth every penny, things are sounding good on that old used reel to reel!
If you think we dont appreciate it , think again , we do! we do we do.

Thanks ,
peace and good night.
 
too much money and no sense, Title of my new song.

gordone said:
OK Fair enough. But the the fact that you had to scrimp and save for the Avalon is all the more reason to RESEARCH your purchase.
It's usually folks who have too much money and no sense
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dropping big bucks on stuff they don't understand (see Digital Camera forums for folks buying a Canon 5D and a 24-70mm f/2.8 without knowing what the 2.8 means)

In all the time it took to save up for the Avalon, maybe you should have been reading up on WHAT the Avalon is!
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research , mesrearch, times a wasting. I researched enough to know that an Avalon is a fine piece of equipment that is good for recording vocals. (at the end of the day, it is just a piece of equipment)
We figured , we would "figure it" out along the way and ask homerecording.com . for the rest of the answers, (just kidding)
It's not like I havent already decided that music is my life. It is. Our band shares a 2500.oo dollar car and a living space, we arent wiping our asses with 100 dollar bills here

QUOTE]It's usually folks who have too much money and no sense[/QUOTE.



I have sense enough to know that common sense is just an opinion and usually boring as hell. I am proud to say I have no common sense.
In all the time it would have taken for me to learn about everything an Avalon could do , I coul've been learning how to use it hands on already.

We SHOULD have RESEARCHED while we we saving , but we did'nt.

We were just too busy writing , jamming, arranging, gigging, mixing other recordings, learning other things about recording, working, doing the dishes, feeding the cat, doing laundry eating and pooping.
:rolleyes:
 
TragikRemix said:
i still think its insane to own an avalon and not know what it does.

that's the beauty of it.
It's like
I saw another indie band last night with 1000 dollar guitars and expensive vintage pedals amps and their slick razor cut hairdo's and vintage synths and imacs, ipods, and computers all over the place who didnt know what they were doing either, but hey , who am I?

they were doin it.


maybe that is the beauty of it.
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thanks for the grey one. i hope you attempted to neg everyone else too for your stupidity and our confusement.
 
yeah, and thanks for the multiples of you who left me gray comments , here are a few, calling me a dumbass and making rude remarks. Apologies if I commented to the wrong person,
but if I commented to the right person, guess that puts me on your level , my mistake!
I was totally "stupid and confused" for standing up for myself.!!

(If I had asked questions about a 50 dollar mic pre every one would've been alot nicer to me eh?)


Hard Panning/Mixdown to... 03-26-2007 07:57 Sign your rep. ez_willis

oh, I will, next time Willie, I will...
Funny , Convenient and hypocritical , how you erased your sarcastic comment about how it would be a novel idea for me to tell you how I had connected everything first. and you did'nt sign your rep the first time.....
Sorry I didnt word my newbie question to your liking, but thats WHY I am a newbie and am on this friggin board to begin with!!
I learned how to sign reps like the people below did, I was just doing it, like you guys were doin me.)
And hopefully next time you won't give me an answer like " I do" with no real answer. or
"I already went over this with you " what is that? are you scolding me?) You did'nt go over anything with me, and to get jerky with me for asking the question again, that you never even answered?
"I do" isnt an answer, its just rude. If you think my beginner ass is dumb or you want to get impatient and pissy with me, than don't answer my "stupid " questions.


What is a Mic Pre for? 03-26-2007 06:05 Ignorant prick


What is a Mic Pre for? 03-25-2007 18:49 You're still a dumbass.... [/I]


What am I a dumbass for?

Being a beginner?

Buying an avalon? Asking questions about all it's uses ?

Or Just posting questions on this board?
 
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didnt leave ya one yet, but im compelled to.

is confusement a word?

you are a dumbass for buying a high end, arguably not-all-that-great-for-the-money preamp without knowing what a preamp even does before hand..

not that called you a dumbass, but those were my thoughts as well.
 
Thanks for being so kind and not resorting to calling me names. Sorry for leaving you a comment. I was tired and loopy from recording stuff. I acted
on impulse.


I think it's definitly worth the value, it's worth more than the car I share with 3 people. It makes things easier, we dont use a computer , we dont have a compressor, we dont have alot of things . It's one nice thing we have, and if I ask questions , I am dumb. Thanks.

I knew enough to know it would makes vocals and guitars sound good, it it does (to me)

My initial question was JUST to get clearer on the functions of a mic pre and whether or not to use it to record drum machines!!!!

Obviously you know alot more about recording and gear than I do
Mr. TragiK , I appreciate and respect your wealth of musical "know how". I don't want any problems.

No confusement is not a word, I made it up, or did you ? I am confused! It's sort of like amusement meets confusion.
 
ight, no hard feelings dude.

no i made the word up :)

welcome. just dont ask us what is the best mic for rap vocals, under $100, and you will be alright here ;)
 
cool "dude", I'm a girl . Don't worry I'm a rocker not a rapper.
:cool:
 
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gotcha babe.

that changes everythign!

i wouldnt have been a pain in the ass all along hehe, i thought you were some punk.
 
Punk? It's probably best you thought I was.

I like the Ramones though, and the Sex Pistols, I just watched the "Filth and the Fury" that was somethin!

hey ,
whats the best rap mic I can get around here for under 100 dollars?

:p
 
Yetipur, why the grey comment?!

yetipur said:
Thanks for being so kind and not resorting to calling me names. Sorry for leaving you a comment. I was tired and loopy from recording stuff. I acted
on impulse.


I think it's definitly worth the value, it's worth more than the car I share with 3 people. It makes things easier, we dont use a computer , we dont have a compressor, we dont have alot of things . It's one nice thing we have, and if I ask questions , I am dumb. Thanks.

I knew enough to know it would makes vocals and guitars sound good, it it does (to me)

My initial question was JUST to get clearer on the functions of a mic pre and whether or not to use it to record drum machines!!!!

Obviously you know alot more about recording and gear than I do
Mr. TragiK , I appreciate and respect your wealth of musical "know how". I don't want any problems.

No confusement is not a word, I made it up, or did you ? I am confused! It's sort of like amusement meets confusion.
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Bro, (I know your a chick, but I call everybody Bro) I think the only reason anybody gave you a hard time is because you threw "Avalon" out there.

Had you asked what a pre-amp is for, what level are my drum machine outputs, blah, blah, blah, nobody would of tripped. And everybody would of tripped all over themselves to help you. (even before we knew you was a broad)

But you wanted to floss (show off). That's cool, if you got your act together. But you didn't. Everybody here knows it. And you know it, too.

I'm a little pissed, because I dissected your post and tried to answer everyone of your questions individually and as simply and effectively as I could.

And you gave me a grey comment for that!? I'm sorry, bro, but that's chicken-shit. I took my time to help you (and true, have a little fun at your expense).

Also, if a little ribbing from your fellow brothers-in-arms is gonna cause you to fly off the handle, maybe you should consider hanging out on another BBS.

I'm not trying to be a Richard on this one, but there are guys here, that if you ain't got your sh*t wired right, they are gonna tear you a new one. (Like not using the Search function) Better start growing some thick skin, like yesterday, if you are gonna run with the big dogs. Ask all questions with humility. I do.
 
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djchris73 said:
Ask all questions with humility. I do.
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Or ask them in the newbie section... generally the more smart-alek-ee people don't go in there lookin for trouble :)
 
cusebassman said:
Or ask them in the newbie section... generally the more smart-alek-ee people don't go in there lookin for trouble :)
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Ain't that the truth.
 
apologies

djchris73 said:
Bro, (I know your a chick, but I call everybody Bro) I think the only reason anybody gave you a hard time is because you threw "Avalon" out there.

Had you asked what a pre-amp is for, what level are my drum machine outputs, blah, blah, blah, nobody would of tripped. And everybody would of tripped all over themselves to help you. (even before we knew you was a broad)

But you wanted to floss (show off). That's cool, if you got your act together. But you didn't. Everybody here knows it. And you know it, too.

I'm a little pissed, because I dissected your post and tried to answer everyone of your questions individually and as simply and effectively as I could.
And you gave me a grey comment for that!? I'm sorry, bro, but that's chicken-shit. I took my time to help you (and true, have a little fun at your expense).

Also, if a little ribbing from your fellow brothers-in-arms is gonna cause you to fly off the handle, maybe you should consider hanging out on another BBS.

I'm not trying to be a Richard on this one, but there are guys here, that if you ain't got your sh*t wired right, they are gonna tear you a new one. (Like not using the Search function) Better start growing some thick skin, like yesterday, if you are gonna run with the big dogs. Ask all questions with humility. I do.
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My grey comment was not directed at at you , I dont think it was me who left you one! Are you sure it was me? I don't even know how to find out who left me the mean comments, it's not like they signed their names.

I left comments for the people I thought , left me mean comments like calling me a dumbass and a prick. I apologized if I grey commented the wrong person as I explained to Tragik earlier.
I was just tired and emotional and re acting on the same stupid level as the people who left me the mean comments,

my mistake was reacting at all.

You are right, I need thicker skin.
BTW
I wasnt flossing or showing off anything, I have way less equip than most of you on this board I am sure.
I was just posing a question about what are pre amps for so "I" could get clearer on how to use the equipment I am working with better , I knew pre amps were good for vocals and guitars just wasnt sure about the drum machines.

I know you were very detailed effective and specific in answering my questions, I appreciate it too. If I commented to you poorly, I didnt mean to, Are you sure it was me?
Can I see what comments I left people?
I dont know who left me the mean comments.

It doesnt matter really anyway.

Again I am sorry If I left you a pissy comment.
 
Yetipur

Apology accepted. I hope you are not discouraged from asking questions. Everybody here wants to help if they can. And I believe you when you say you were not trying to show off. But you have to admit that your comment came off sounding like this: Ummh, I got an Avalon and like, ummh, I don't know how to use it and stuff.... :D Very "babe in the woods". After talkin' with you, I know you didn't mean to sound that way. But I'm pretty sure that's what all these clowns thought. By clowns, I mean all of my home recording engineer brothers, who's pain and suffering are akin to my own and who I have nothing but the utmost respect for.

Anywho, welcome to homerecording.com
 
"What is a mike pre for?"

Not a bad question really. There are obvious answers and perhaps some that are a bit deeper. I've done a lot of recording, have a number of pre's in the studio, and I'm still always trying to figure out what mike pre's are really for, heh.

There's more to a pre, and pre selection, than just bringing a mike signal to line level, or DI'ing a highZ source.

Best to question everything.
 
And the honest to god truth is that VirginalSasquatch :eek: :D here is not the first person I've known to do exactly the same thing. I know of a couple of people who heard that in order to produce "professional" quality CDs, all they need is a PT system, an Avalon, and a Neumann TLM 103. In both cases, they went out and got exactly that, and I ended up having to help them understand how their chain worked.

It's almost a cliche nowadays.....
 
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