tjohnston
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From some of the articles I have read it seems that professional, educated and well trained engineers kind of scoff at home recordist. I guess its similiar to some fat guys playing softball comapired to major leage baseball.
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DKMurphPr
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I don't really care what other people think about what I do in the privacy of my own home. 
Anyway, that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.
Anyway, that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.
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postalblue
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i couldn't care less what they think, but i bet a lot of pros have home setups where they can do their own stuff on their free time.
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volltreffer
Imply depressed
I'm a real engineer and I love home recording
Alas I'm no audio engineer
aXel
Alas I'm no audio engineer
aXel
Son of Mixerman
Mix Junior
tjohnston said:
Some scoff, and some don't. Mostly primadonna's are the scoffers. Which in case has more to do with those people having some sort of elitism infection. I know plenty of Professionals that cut their teeth in home/garage studios. Most of the best AE's out there came from the bottom up.
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HOMEBBS
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thats true, but once you have heard so many homerecordings how many of them really sound clean it's like this lets say you have never driven a car but have seen it done on tv or heard it on the radio then somebody drops by and hands u keys to a car and this is the first time u have seen one live what do you think ur gonna do mind u you have had no prior trainning at the wheel now how is that gonna sound
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twist
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Some may scoff, but the really cool ones come here and help the less fortunate.
Twist
Twist
Stealthtech
LOGIC ABUSER
Many are probably pissed because there losing business.
I've seen 3 studios go out of business in the past 5 years in my area.
I've seen 3 studios go out of business in the past 5 years in my area.
Uladine
New member
A good arguement for the home recordist would be the band Chimaira's discography. They came out with an EP shortly before they were signed that was recorded by a friend in a home studio, then they were signed by Roadrunner records (probably the biggest metal label in the country) and their debut album fell short of the EP in terms of quality. Its not just my opinion, as now the band is going back to their friend's studio to do their next album because they liked the quality better.
i bet a lot of the home recordists here (excluding me) would be able to do just as good of a job as a pro if given the right equipment.
Its like the famous "whos the best guitarist" question. Who knows? its probably some guy sitting in his bedroom who can play circles around many pros.
i bet a lot of the home recordists here (excluding me) would be able to do just as good of a job as a pro if given the right equipment.
Its like the famous "whos the best guitarist" question. Who knows? its probably some guy sitting in his bedroom who can play circles around many pros.
Chris Shaeffer
Peavey ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know of one real engineer who I worked with before he went to school and got into the business. We recorded several projects together with our homerecording stuff, but, alas, he went off to the big time.
Since then he worked in several pro studio as assistant then engineer, finally breaking away and building his own studio which he ran for 3 years. He then sold it to his employees and got out of the business- except some small stuff for Sony and NBC that he does out his his---home studio.
He told me many times of the years that he was learning and participating in the professional audio business that he never felt as good as he did when we were doing the home recording stuff. He felt that we have more creativity and more fun with the limited equipment and that pro level project- expecially the big name projects- were pretty much scripted and left little room for creativity.
Basically, when you have all the right tools to do all the right things there is very little challenge in using them.
Sure, you have to work really hard in a home studio to even approach the quality of a pro facility, but that is part of what makes it so much fun. I've heard plenty of home recording that don't even come close, but that isn't really the point. The point is enjoying the art of recording music. Period. Whether you enjoy it as a paycheck or as a hobby, who cares.
I had the pleasure of hanging out with bassist Victor Wooten for about a week not long ago. Despite the fact that he can outplay just about anyone on the bass and has a grasp on music that few others have, he still respects EVERYONE who picks up and instrument to make sounds. It isn't about being awesome, its about being yourself and expressing yourself in whatever way makes you happy.
Home recc'ers and pro folks are 2 different, but related, beasts. I think that we should respect each other for our differences and enjoy each other for our similarities. It isn't really a competition at all. Shania Twain ISN'T going to call me and ask to record her number one selling record of all time in my home studio here. And I'm not going to claim that I could if she did.
Take care,
Chris
Since then he worked in several pro studio as assistant then engineer, finally breaking away and building his own studio which he ran for 3 years. He then sold it to his employees and got out of the business- except some small stuff for Sony and NBC that he does out his his---home studio.
He told me many times of the years that he was learning and participating in the professional audio business that he never felt as good as he did when we were doing the home recording stuff. He felt that we have more creativity and more fun with the limited equipment and that pro level project- expecially the big name projects- were pretty much scripted and left little room for creativity.
Basically, when you have all the right tools to do all the right things there is very little challenge in using them.
Sure, you have to work really hard in a home studio to even approach the quality of a pro facility, but that is part of what makes it so much fun. I've heard plenty of home recording that don't even come close, but that isn't really the point. The point is enjoying the art of recording music. Period. Whether you enjoy it as a paycheck or as a hobby, who cares.
I had the pleasure of hanging out with bassist Victor Wooten for about a week not long ago. Despite the fact that he can outplay just about anyone on the bass and has a grasp on music that few others have, he still respects EVERYONE who picks up and instrument to make sounds. It isn't about being awesome, its about being yourself and expressing yourself in whatever way makes you happy.
Home recc'ers and pro folks are 2 different, but related, beasts. I think that we should respect each other for our differences and enjoy each other for our similarities. It isn't really a competition at all. Shania Twain ISN'T going to call me and ask to record her number one selling record of all time in my home studio here. And I'm not going to claim that I could if she did.
Take care,
Chris
cstockdale
supafly killa homey
Listen to Remy Shand's "The Way I Feel", and tell me you can't do something good in a homestudio. It may not be the kind of music you like (neo-soul), but it was all done by him, played, engineered, recorded, produced etc etc etc in his parent's basement.
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littledog
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HOMEBBS said:
pro engineers use punctuation.
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ColdAsh
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Damn beat me to it!littledog said:
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donkeystyle
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where's sweetnubz or whatever that guys nick is.....when i saw this thread i thought he would be all over it in no time.
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yiordanaki
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I live in brisbane in australia - and there are NO major studios here.
All we have is peoples home recording studios, and there are some great bands making some great tracks and making some great money.
In most cases i think you're only as good as the equipment you own.
but hey, we're trying!
yiordanaki
All we have is peoples home recording studios, and there are some great bands making some great tracks and making some great money.
In most cases i think you're only as good as the equipment you own.
but hey, we're trying!
yiordanaki
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Beezoboy
Home Recording Guru
I look on Recpit all the time and lots of those guys are straight up arrogant assholes that will slam you for asking if you should buy an NTK or T3.
But then again there are some guys over there like Fletcher and Harvey that realize they were once asking the same type of questions. They answer questions to the best of thier ability and are great guys. Most importantly they know thier shit!!
I think the arrogant guys are scared that a guy with a Mackie mixer and an RNC is going to steal thier buisiness. Well, you know what, they are right. I think in any buisiness if you offer a good product and you are nice about it, you'll win. If a guy knows you have a Mackie and a V67G but get the sound of a Neve and a U47 and charge him less money than a guy that really does have the Neve and U47, thats a no brainer.
In the end that asshole that scoffs at the NTK question, with a Neve board that thinks tape is "well just better" will go down in flames because of his attitude not because of his lack of skillz.
Beezoboy
But then again there are some guys over there like Fletcher and Harvey that realize they were once asking the same type of questions. They answer questions to the best of thier ability and are great guys. Most importantly they know thier shit!!
I think the arrogant guys are scared that a guy with a Mackie mixer and an RNC is going to steal thier buisiness. Well, you know what, they are right. I think in any buisiness if you offer a good product and you are nice about it, you'll win. If a guy knows you have a Mackie and a V67G but get the sound of a Neve and a U47 and charge him less money than a guy that really does have the Neve and U47, thats a no brainer.
In the end that asshole that scoffs at the NTK question, with a Neve board that thinks tape is "well just better" will go down in flames because of his attitude not because of his lack of skillz.
Beezoboy
smellyfuzz
New member
Uladine;
Yes but, do they have a clue of music sounding "right".
And Perhaps, a producer got in the way and gave them a sound that they just did not prefer.
NO WAY ! Skills are very substantial.
Beezoboy
It's funny how everyone swears by Mackie, yet I never see them in pro-setups.
Whether it is tape or digital, these things are way, way above & beyond the equipment that is sitting in your room.
Just because someone who has used a Studer for the last 25 years and prefers the sound over the convenience of digital, does not class him as an ass hole.
Any one with a Neve or any gear like that is quite frankly in a completely different league then us.
Thus, not even concerned with low budget/unsigned business.
Your point is moot.
Yes but, do they have a clue of music sounding "right".
And Perhaps, a producer got in the way and gave them a sound that they just did not prefer.
NO WAY ! Skills are very substantial.
Beezoboy
It's funny how everyone swears by Mackie, yet I never see them in pro-setups.
Whether it is tape or digital, these things are way, way above & beyond the equipment that is sitting in your room.
Just because someone who has used a Studer for the last 25 years and prefers the sound over the convenience of digital, does not class him as an ass hole.
Any one with a Neve or any gear like that is quite frankly in a completely different league then us.
Thus, not even concerned with low budget/unsigned business.
Your point is moot.
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Beezoboy
Home Recording Guru
But smellyfuzz, the POINT here is that GEAR does not make you a pro. I have heard so many very good recordings done on Mackies and soundcrafts and so forth and even on computers/daws.
So the point stands!!
Beezoboy
So the point stands!!
Beezoboy
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littledog
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It's not quite an "either-or" issue.
Yes, I would prefer to hear a skilled pro's efforts on mediocre equipment than 99% of the amateurs recording on an unlimited budget.
But most pros would still PREFER to work with top of the line gear, if for no other reason than it lets them get high quality results with less work on their part. Less time and effort also translates into saving money for the client.
While it is common to hear about all of the wonderful sounding recordings that were made with Mackies, audio buddies, Behringers, Marshalls, etc. when pristine sound is an issue, like for instance in classical music recording, you will rarely find that level of gear in the chain.
Yes, I would prefer to hear a skilled pro's efforts on mediocre equipment than 99% of the amateurs recording on an unlimited budget.
But most pros would still PREFER to work with top of the line gear, if for no other reason than it lets them get high quality results with less work on their part. Less time and effort also translates into saving money for the client.
While it is common to hear about all of the wonderful sounding recordings that were made with Mackies, audio buddies, Behringers, Marshalls, etc. when pristine sound is an issue, like for instance in classical music recording, you will rarely find that level of gear in the chain.
smellyfuzz
New member
Littledog;
Yes, but what no one here is taking into consideration is that "all things being equal" the better stuff is just that... better.
That $1,000,000 studio can and will sound better.
The greatest engineer in the world will make a far better recording using the better gear, period.
Not just because it is easier, but because the gear sounds better.
Sean
Yes, but what no one here is taking into consideration is that "all things being equal" the better stuff is just that... better.
That $1,000,000 studio can and will sound better.
The greatest engineer in the world will make a far better recording using the better gear, period.
Not just because it is easier, but because the gear sounds better.
Sean