what computer package to use (digi001???)

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Tubedude, I believe the WDM is new in PTLE 5.1 which came out in the middle of March. I went an looked at my device manager for the driver for Digi 001 and it showed ".../dalwdm/sys. Technically, two cahnnels should work with just about any program. Granted it is something, but you are loosing most of the capacity of the DIgi 001. I also recall a post where a Digi tech rep replied to a question onCakewalk and Digi 001 and said you should be able to get 2 channels.

j, the reason that Logic works with the digi is because they incorporated Direct I/O, which is the Digidesign proproitary I/O system. I suppose Logic had to license this to get access. As far as I know, Logic is the only audio program with access. TI believe it works well, but there are a few bugs with midi.

A PIII system is certainly safer. I considered one my self. but when I saw the GA-7DX board had worked with the Digi, I decided to take a chance. It worked for me, but others are encountering more problems than I did. Eventually, it will all be figured out, but the Digi tech reps are silent when these questions are posted, because they don't offically support AMD or VIA chipsets, which is what all AMD products run on. A little more help, support and research from Digi could help the AMD ball to get rolling faster.

A final thought, these faster processors are definately going to change things at Digidesign, and everywhere. You formerly needed DSP cards because computers did not have the power to run but 1 or 2 D-verbs, or other power-hungry plugins. My 1.2 Athalon does 14 D-Verbs and the 1.3 Athalon does about 17!!! An the RTAS plugins can be added and changed 'on-the-fly', which is not true in the full TDM PT systems. (A bit of a sore spot!) Whaatever your platform or sound card, more good things are coming!
 
hey jps,

run into any discussion of the kmixer on the digi site? i think that wdm drivers initially had to utilize a kernel mixer in windows which introduces latency problem. of course, i don't really understand all this stuff...i'm just curious...
 
No, I am not familiar with that issue. The WDM driver is just for channel 1-2 with non-digi applications, so I wouldn't be surprized if there were some additional issues. For the Digi 001, they use the Waves driver, which utilizes Direct I/O. Concerning latency, it's not been a problem, yet. A really big, fast computer helps, because you can stay in the lowest latency mode with more tracks and without the "interrupts", which would cause to to move to a higher latency setting. But I am just starting to get into Midi, so I may have more info down the road.

Digi basically has 4 "latency" setting: 128, 256, 512 and 1024. At 128, latency is not noticable, at 256- you notice it, but still usable for recording monitoring. 512 is worse and 1024 is impossible. There is also a zero latency setting, where it monitors 'before' it goes into the software package, but then none of the effects apply to this mode.
 
thanks for your reply JPS!

is direct i/o something propietary to digidesign? though i think you answered this question in a previous post.

i'm just guessing, but this has some kind of dedicated hardware support? i think it has to have it...i mean the d i/o.

i think the fact that the digi has a zero latency option makes it cool as shit......though i know what you are talking bout with the plugs.....

later gator
 
j, sorry, but I gave you a bad piece of info on zero latency on the Digi! I hadn't actually used this feature and when I looked for it- there is none. Checked the manual and says zero latency requires being plugged in directly into a mixer. Obviously, any sound card can have zero latency if you use a mixer. Sorry, I think I confused it with the Motu 828, which I almost bought.

The amount of latency on the Digi for each setting is:
128 = 2.9ms
256 = 5.8ms
512 = 11.6ms
1024 = 23.2ms

The faster your CPU, the more tracks you can do at 128. I have already done 4-5 tracks at 128 with no problem. Based on my testing, I don't think I would have a problem using all 18 imputs at the lowest latency level, if I should ever need to. With a slower computer, you may have to move up to 256 to get larger amounts of recording tracks.
 
actually, i was being kind of a smart ass about the zero latency thing....;)

so you are recording 24 bit with effects in real time?
 
J, I dabble a little here and a little there when it comes to recording. I have no illusions of grandeur; music and recording for me are a hobby. Although, I have a brother in LA who was made several jazz CD. He has a MOTU setup with DP on a Mac. He feels its better for composing and sequencing.

Anyway, I did a small recording test to see how may tracks I could get at the lowest latency level on the Digi 001 (128 samples), and I was easily able to get the maximum 24 tracks.

There are a lot of people that know a lot more about Digi than myself. If you are interested in the number of tracks you can get with different computer setups on the Digi 001, here is a long 3 page thread with lots of interesting info for anyone interested in computer performance.

http://duc.digidesign.com/ubb/Forum32/HTML/001474.html

If anyone knows of similar threads with other DAWs, or other test that are used to evaluate the performance of DAWs, I would be interested.
 
hi JPS,

thanks for the link....i am interested in learning more about the Digi.

i , too dabble....it's a hobby.....my whole interest in recording, and pc recording in particular, stems from the fact that i was never very good at putting a band together....which in turn may stem from the fact that my favorite recording artists include: the pixies, joy division, fred lane and big star... of course i also like more mainstream stuff like van halen, garbage, NIN, nirvana.....most the musician's i know around here hate the stuff i like (except van halen), or they are too caught up in their own thing.....plus these days , i don't have a lot of time to get together with other folks or a place to play music............so, here i am with a pc

at any rate, i don't consider myself much of an expert on anything regarding recording or computers, or really anything.

thanks for filling me in on the digi as much as you have....

i know you like amd, but i ordered parts to build a pentium III 1ghz system...i'm gonna call it 'Gigasaurous'.......perhaps somewhere down the line i'll have a chance to use the digi with it....

later gator
 
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