WCSMITHERMAN ripped me off !!!!!

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He agreed to trade his acoustic/electric guitar for my Gadgetlabs 496 soundcard.

I was very nonchalant about the whole thing since he was very promt in his communications (at 1st) and I had no use for that card ..... so I sent him the card 1st, and said that he should check it out and then ship the guitar.

He agreed.

After some time passed I tried (twice) to contact him and he finally gets back to me and says that he was in a car accident "on his way to the UPS store with the guitar" and totaled the car and the guitar.

The shop he took it to said it was beyond repair.

O.k...... sounds slightly sketchy but hey, who am I to call him on what would be a real crappy situation.

So we agree on $125.00 Paypal for the card.
Says he may need a week to get the money because of the car situation.

I say that fine because I am patient and apparently too trusting.

Haven't heard from him in a month.

And have repeatedly tried to contact him.

Now I have no other choice than to relay this unfortunate lapse of character here, EBAY, his band's website........... abittersunday.com ..... and anywhere I can find him.

I have sent copies of my e-mails to his other band members and to their management.
Hopefully somebody will have the integrety to encourage him to live up to his agreements.

So if you know WCSMITHERMAN, then relay the message and tell him to quit being a fucking deuche-bag and pay up.

If you have any intentions of doing business with him than take this as a warning.

-mike
 
That's too bad. I've been waiting for his paypal payment for my GL wave824 card for a long time too (although I haven't shipped it yet). He said he was waiting for a money order from an ebay auction about a month ago. I'm still waiting, but I've been busy so I haven't bothered to follow up again. Anyhow, maybe he'll read this and save me the trouble.
 
That sucks. Sorry to hear about it.

But you got his address. Maybe send him a nice Chrismas present this year. :D ;) A freshly killed duck for their dinner? Its not your fault UPS took 7-14 days for ground shipping and there was no refridgeration. lol
 
This is classic.

I got a response.

First I sent this ....... I was obviously pissed.

"From: Mike Canton
To: wcsmitherman@bellsouth.net
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:25 PM
Subject: Where's my money!


Listen asshole,

this is now far beyond any bullshit excuse you may have.

You owe me $125.00 for the Gadgetlabs sound card.

Pay up dick.
Since you've made every effort, in my opinion, to avoid contact with me I must now begin to leave as much negative feedback as I can find places to leave it ...... i.e. the Homerecording.com, EBAY, and every other music forum I can find.

As soon as you leave me opportunity I will be forced to leave as much proof of you being an asshole on your band's web forum also.

If this is a Cc: to any of the other band members, and you do not wish to have you band name associated with a LOT of negative comments due to WCSMITHERMAN's lack of integrety, then I suggest you strongly encourage him to contact me immediately and PAYPAL me the $125.00 he agreed to pay me.

You leave me no choice.

-mike"


Not very poetic and admittedly a bit immature, but at least provoked a response.



"From: William Smitherman
To: Mike Canton
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Where's my money!


lol.... Nice one. U get more flies with honey than with salt asshole. Ya see, I've actually been outta town for close to a month, but u don't wanna hear any more bullshit excuses, so go fuck yourself. That's all you're gonna get from me as of now.

Guess ya shoulda been a little nicer,

William"


To which I have responded ........



"I could care less about flies and even proverbial honey goes rotten when left sitting too long..........like a month.

Funny.

You've been out of town for a month but have purchased MORE soundcards and have been quite busy trouble shooting their set up to use them.
Guess it must be for your mobile recording rig, right?

....from http://www.gadgetlabs.org/ .....

Posted: Oct. 11 2004,20:04


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Just curious, as I've just got another 496. Which puts me up at 1 824, and 2 496's. My question is, can they all sync together BEFORE the CP comes out? It's not really that big of a deal, as I can wait for the CP, but I do tend to get a little anxious... hehehe

William

....and ....

Posted: Oct. 14 2004,01:14


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Doug,


Sweet! Thanks for the info. I just obtained my 2nd 824. So in all I now have 2 496's, and 2 824's! So the 4 card scenario is about to be kickin'! However I do believe that I will be sellin' my 496's. May hang on to one due to Eric's very helpful advice about the 24/96 capabilities. Thanks again for that Eric. And Thank you as well Doug!

William


Let's see .......Oct.14th ....... that was only a week ago ..... so you've had access to a computer and yet have refused to respond to any of my more than cordial e-mails and private messages on the BBS.

In fact the only one you have responded to is the "salty" one I sent to you and all of your bandmates.

Would you or your management like a copy of all of our communications before you ceased them, because I have them.
And in them you agreed to pay me $125.00.

Now apparently you feel justified in intentionally stealing from me because after avoiding me for a month (from my point of view) and still not paying me, I have stopped being nice.

Tell me something Will.
I trusted you enough to send you the card first, to test and make sure it was cool, before you sent me anything.
Then after some back and forth you stop communications with me.
That was a month ago.
Meanwhile you've been spending MONEY and time BUYING ADDITIONAL HARDWARE and getting help completing your computer set-up and , yet not contacting me or paying me.

How long would you wait before you stopped being nice???

If your intention from the start was to rip me off, which I dont believe it was, then why waste time with all of the initial e-mails.

If you were not intending to rip me off then why not get in contact with me????

Did any of my previous messages indicate that I would not be understanding and receptive if you had needed more time?

The fact now remains that you still owe me $125 and are a self-declared thief if you do not paypal me promptly.

I have been more than fair and far more than patient.


-mike"



I think its understandable to anyone why I stopped being nice.


-mike



..... oh by the way .....this is the response from the band management.... very professional.

"From: Management@abittersunday.com
To: Mike Canton
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Where's my lousy $125.00 WCSMITHERMAN!!!!??


Mike,


As much effort as you have made to slander one of our band members, which in this case will be reported to your ISP, this is a matter in which you'll have to settle on your own. And I've been informed that this "transaction" was not held on Ebay, so it looks like you'll have a time trying to leave any kind of feedback there. And about the "DICK" comment. It appears that you've seen one or two up close. Now, as far as bringing any "heat" on the band with this crap that YOU say is true, well there won't be any loss of shows, or studio time, or radio time, or anything else for that matter over this. I guess it's just something you'll have to live with, and eventually let it go.

Sincerely,
Jason Meadows
A Bitter Sunday Management"

:rolleyes: :confused: :eek: :(

-mike
 
I dislike pricks like William Smitherman.

Unfortunately they're everywhere. Selfish, self-absorbed, anal retentive navel-gazing mummies boy schmuks.

Let's hope he acts in a decent human way and pays his debts
 
I really wish guys like this would stay off the boards. It makes everyone really wary of doing business, when there really are some awesome people out there.
Peace and good luck to, let us know if we can help you with I don't know....anything? ;)
 
oooooohhhhh they have a manager. One of their big brothers I guess... to be mean for them. HA!! Unless it's Wm Morris Agcy it's not real management. Time to blacklist another little crappy band:)

I HATE people like that.

H2H
 
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Oh no!! I've been banned from the fantastic A Bitter Sunday forum! What will I do now??

It hurts. It really does. :D

Can somebody keep me posted if they respond? Thanks.
 
They pulled the post completely...... no surprise...

Best thing is to spread the word all over any forums this moron might hang around at.....
 
Yea, no surprise...

Does any one here even know what's goin' on? I mean, so many of u have automatically taken formerlyfilez side with only hearing one side of the story. And another thing I've noticed, after I contacted him twice today, I've yet to see an update as far as our arrangement. And Invisiblenemies, who the fuck are you? lol U had some time on your hands huh? I guess so bein' in the army and all. And yes u were banned from the forum, for puttin' your nose where it don't belong. But nice try any way. Don't u know that no one sees the forum before us? And if some one relpies to it (which they can't, 'cause it's not there any more) I'll bring it to you PERSONALLY. How about that? Our management isn't an older brother either. But I'm sure u all would love for it to be, as it's a little more funny that way. But you're wrong, so let's not go into that. Any way, I'll just sit back and see if an update is posted, as I suppose it is well deserved.

William
 
Looks like we HAVE gotten both sides of the story...

From: William Smitherman
To: Mike Canton
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Where's my money!


lol.... Nice one. U get more flies with honey than with salt asshole. Ya see, I've actually been outta town for close to a month, but u don't wanna hear any more bullshit excuses, so go fuck yourself. That's all you're gonna get from me as of now.

Guess ya shoulda been a little nicer,

William
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You're way beyond being able to defend your actions man... You should just admit that you were wrong and that you screwed up, and give these people their damn money. Your EXCEPTIONALLY stupid action was to say that Mike wasn't going to get anything else from you and that he should have been a little nicer. You quite nicley opened yourself up to being sued for fraud.
 
WCSmitherman said:
And Invisiblenemies, who the fuck are you?
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Who the fuck am I? Don't worry about who I am...worry about paying for your card...I'll be fine.

I see that you have quite a bit of time on your hands as well...I mean, ripping people off does take up the bulk of the day, right? I see from your website that your band is not really playing out a whole lot these days either. That's good - it leaves your nights open.

Instead of posting ridiculous shit on your own forum, why not post a sample of your work on this one? Let us hear what you've been doing with multiple soundcards...should sound 3 times as good, right?
 
Sounds like SMitherman and Mr Meadows could both use a a swift but thorough ass kicking, regardless of who said what or did what, it sure looks that way.
I had trouble once with a payment from me that never showed up to the seller, and we boxed it out for like a month, but it straightened out eventually. This guy seems to have no intention of paying, as he said previously, so therefore, bring the slander. Its warranted.
 
There is still time to make it right!

How are you doing Paul?

Pier
 
It's just like I said.....

All this discussion on how bad of a person I am, but yet I haven't seen the first thing about our most recent conversation. I plan on doing right with this guy, never intended not to. But when u harrass me, I get defensive, and then nothin' good comes of it. Invisiblenimies, you're just a moron all the way around. I don't have time to waste on u. If you're defendin' our counrty, then we're sure to be extinct pretty soon. I guess it does go to show they'll accept any one in the service. I just didn't think that they let faggs in any more... Guess that was overthrown too.

William
 
Just out of curiosity, did you ever plan on actually sending me the money for my 824 or what?
 
Speak of the devil, hey Pier! Pier was the dude that shit didnt work out with at first. Thankfully we cleared it up with a minimum of slandering and name calling. :)

You dont have a newish AMD CPU to part with cheap, do ya? And maybe a top-o-the-line mobo to go with it? :)

Peace
Paul
 
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