Vs880 to my Computer, how?!

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good day,

so, i ahve recently purchased a vs 880, and am trying to sned my individual tracks ot my computer for further editing and mizing, but i cannot figure it out...

the problem may be my soundcard; i am using a Creative Labs Extigy external soundcard, connected to my computer via USB. So, it has a line in, and SPDIF in connections. connecting the line in to the master outs of my 880 picks up nothing when i set it up propperly in cool edit 2.

i have not tried digital to SPDIF yet, because I do not have the cable, shoudl i do this? i have heard it is better quality transfer? do i have to play with any of the settings to get this to work?

or, is there anything i have to do on the 880 to make the sound directed out of the master outs?

i am wondering, can you record this way (with an external soundcard)? or does the setup not allow for it?

Any help would be great, thanks!

gavin
 
If you have a plain ('yugo') vs880, it seems to work with the br8towav converter from boss, available at the rolandus.com site. But: you'll need a SCSI disk drive like MO, zip, sysquest... it won't work with a hard disk.

DISCLAIMER: I use a 880EX and there fore could NOT try it my self. You might have a look over at vsplanet..

aXel
 
volltreffer said:
If you have a plain ('yugo') vs880, it seems to work with the br8towav converter from boss, available at the rolandus.com site. But: you'll need a SCSI disk drive like MO, zip, sysquest... it won't work with a hard disk.

DISCLAIMER: I use a 880EX and there fore could NOT try it my self. You might have a look over at vsplanet..

aXel
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Doesn't work w/ EX, IIRC.
 
trendy said:
do you think it will work fine with my external soundcard?
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Yes it should work. Does your card have SPDIF?
 
I don't know what the problem is. The main outs *should* work. S/PDIF should work better if bit rate and depth are properly matched. Why? The Roland has some data stored digitally, and to send it to a line out, it has to convert it back into an analog signal. Then your sound card converts the analog signal back to the digital domain. That's 2 conversions you don't need. By using S/PDIF, the digital signal is sent directly to your hard drive, avoiding 2 conversions with not-so-hot A-D / D-A conversion.

Either way, you can only send 2 tracks at a time, and they will not be synched. To get around this, create a 4 beat or so click track and insert it into track one. Then copy it to all of the other tracks. Pan tracks one and two hard left and right, disable all the other tracks and any FX, and send them in real time to the sound card. Do the same with tracks three and four, etc. Once all the tracks are in the computer, use your editing software to line up the click tracks and you are good to go. Then delete the click track.

But- None of that explains why the main outs of your Roland are not being recognized by your soundcard or software. If it doesn't recognize a line out, there is no reason to believe it will recognize S/PDIF, either. First, send the main outs to something else, such as a pair of monitors, just to verify that they are live. Then send any line out that you know is good, say a cheap CD player, to the line in on your soundcard. This will tell you whether the problem is in the Roland or the computer. I'm betting the Roland is just fine, and either your soundcard or your computer software (more likely) is not configured properly to receive that line level signal. Somewhere, I'm betting there's a software setting that's wrong. Good luck-Richie
 
SPDIF will copy 2 tracks at a time, but ALL tracks will be in sync if you hook up your midi.
 
i am wondering, can you record this way (with an external soundcard)? or does the setup not allow for it?
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No you cant.
Spdif is the way to go. Read what Richard Monroe said about keeping a few empty bars in the beginning. Your first 2 tracks will be in synch but when you add more it can get out of synch. You can still realign with your software.
I would invest in a seperate usb Spdif interface rather than using a soundblaster card. They are crap anyway. Plus you dont need a soundcard to use Spdif.
The best way to use the original 880 is with Mas mode at 44.1khz. Saves a lot of headaches. Mas mode is the best on this unit. The sample rate must match the software settings when using spdif on the original 880. In the end your Cd will be the standard 44.1khz at 16 bit.
If you have a tapedeck you can try your master outs to it and see if you have signal. I also think this may be software settings.

i have not tried digital to SPDIF yet, because I do not have the cable, shoudl i do this? i have heard it is better quality transfer? do i have to play with any of the settings to get this to work?
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You will have to make changes on the 880. The manual tells you how.
 
duck said:
No you cant.
Spdif is the way to go. Read what Richard Monroe said about keeping a few empty bars in the beginning. Your first 2 tracks will be in synch but when you add more it can get out of synch.
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Naw...midi will keep EVERYTHING in synch. Try it, you'll like it.
 
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