Vox Valvetronix...my thoughts.

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In recent years I've become rather tired of lugging around a half stack whenever I want to throw down at a little jam session with some friends. Plus I'm going on vacation soon to see my family in Chicago and they insist that I bring the guitar so we can jam (it seems that everybody up there is a musician). All signs were pointing to me buying a new amp. The only thing I have besides my large amps is a little pathetic 8" practice amp that isn't worth 2 shits but I'll never get rid of it because I've had it ever since I started learning guitar.
Anyway, I set my price limit at below 500 bucks and it had to be easy to fit in my trunk or back seat. It also had to have a wide range of sounds and be somewhat acceptable with just about all of them.
I was dreading this adventure. I have been a hardcore fan of tube amps for a long time now and eliminating that from my options due to price was leaving me with serious apprehension.
I tried out a few of your standard SS combo amps. Not enough versatility. I tried out a couple of the effects laden, knob covered offerings....no dice. I decided to try out the modeling amps. Can it be better than the stand alone modelers I have so much distaste for?
First up, Line 6. I was not impressed. Out of the several amp models this thing had, perhaps only one or two could I ever imagine using. The distortion was fuzzy and generally just plain disturbing. The effects were decent but not very convincing at all. Yuck. Perhaps their higher end models offer something worth using....I dunno.
Then after a few more tries, I decided to try an amp I had never thought of considering. The little Voxes. I was interested in the 50 watt 1x12 AD50VT specifically.
Within seconds of plugging in, I perked up and got just plain excited. This thing was impressive. I noticed that it was dialed in for the "AC30" sound. Having never played through an AC30 I can't vouch for it's accuracy, but I can vouch for it's fat, throaty, and generally bitchin' sound. I took a leisurely spin around the amp model selector and I was similarly impressed by each and every one of them. The blackface 2x12, the tweed 4x10, the 80's UK, the US Hi Gain, Boutique clean and OD models...I was nearly blown away by all of them. There is no harshness, no grainyness, no flabby muddiness. They were all clean, tight and very satisfying. This was the polar opposite of the Line 6 sound that I had come to expect from an inexpensive modeling amp.
The effects sound great (although somewhat limiting in their groupings...but hey, delay and reverb are on there independantly so it's good enough for me).
I don't know why I'm posting this. I guess I'm just real happy with the purchase and I thought I would share my enthusiasm for this little gem with everybody around here.
It's in no danger of replacing my 5150 or my Marshall when I want a 5150 or a Marshall sound. But for sheer versatility and satisfying sound in a portable package, I've never made a better purchase. Hell, I sat around and played that thing for hours last night.
Anybody thats in the same market, check them out. This thing may even see some recording duty with those blackface and boutique models.

Perhaps I'll record some clips this weekend.
 
Cool beans - glad you found what you were looking for. Looking forward to hearing some clips.
 
metalhead28 said:
Yep. I'll do some clips this weekend.
hope that wasn't wrong to post my clips in your thread. :o ...I just love the thing too, and wanted them to get an idea of how it sounded.
 
I've been singing the praises of the Vox AD50VT I bought awhile ago for a long time now. Of course, I get the "tube purists" who slam my opinion, but those are the die-hards who I know haven't tried the little Vox hybrids. (...don't forget that they have a tube preamp) The tube-purists always seem to base their opinion on Line6 products and other sub-standard amp modelers from the past. I agree that the Vox Valvetronix amps still aren't quite as good as most tube amps, but you certainly can't beat them for the combination of tonal versatility and portability.

Have fun here in Chicago. The music scene here is second to none.
 
Buck62 said:
I've been singing the praises of the Vox AD50VT I bought awhile ago for a long time now. Of course, I get the "tube purists" who slam my opinion, but those are the die-hards who I know haven't tried the little Vox hybrids. (...don't forget that they have a tube preamp) The tube-purists always seem to base their opinion on Line6 products and other sub-standard amp modelers from the past. I agree that the Vox Valvetronix amps still aren't quite as good as most tube amps, but you certainly can't beat them for the combination of tonal versatility and portability.

Have fun here in Chicago. The music scene here is second to none.

Well, the funny thing is that I am a bit of a tube purist. I'm still firm in my opinion that a purpose driven tube amp is the ultimate tool, especially for recording. But I've been softened up considerably by this thing ;)
 
soundchaser59 said:
CooooooL! Thatr bluesy "solo sample" kicks beuuttt!
as you can probably tell...just the lead is the vox...the rest is a backing track I got off the net...thanks though.
 
Buck62 said:
I've been singing the praises of the Vox AD50VT I bought awhile ago for a long time now. Of course, I get the "tube purists" who slam my opinion, but those are the die-hards who I know haven't tried the little Vox hybrids. (...don't forget that they have a tube preamp) The tube-purists always seem to base their opinion on Line6 products and other sub-standard amp modelers from the past. I agree that the Vox Valvetronix amps still aren't quite as good as most tube amps, but you certainly can't beat them for the combination of tonal versatility and portability.

Have fun here in Chicago. The music scene here is second to none.

Well, I started singing the praises of my AD50VT as soon as I got it too. Dont get me wrong, I love it, but I did find the cracks in it's armour. I DO get a ton of sounds from it that I love and record with, BUT......

(1) Wait til you replace that 70/80 speaker with a Weber Blue Dog or Silver Bell. WOW!

(2) Replacing the speaker, I discovered that this amp is not made to go on the road. It is made from particle board, and all but 2 of the screws holding the back on were holding nothing, the holes were stripped, the first time I took the back off. The screws would not come out, I had to slip a blade under the screw heads while turning them with a phillips bit just to make them back out. I screwed them back in and they never grip anything - especially bad since 6 of them screw into the metal housing the amp itself.

(3) The gate on the compressor is flawed, audibly flawed. If you hold a clean chord and just let it decay naturally, you will hear that there is something in the sound that cuts off artifically when the sound gets too soft to keep the gate open. I cant be sure that it's a gate, but something cracks off at the end, and in a super clean recording scenario, it is audible enough to be unacceptable.
BTW......the tube is in the power section, not the preamp. The preamp is solid state, that's how they get the modeling.

The handiest feature is the "power soak" knob on the back, you can set the speaker volume without changing the amp tone.

As long as you pamper it and dont toss it around the back of your semi rig every night, it shoudl hold up and sound good.

BUT..... I changed my tune after I bought my first all tube amp. For versatility in sounds, the Vox is quite nice. But I did not understand what the "all tube" attitude was about until I bought one and plugged it in side by side. It's only a little Traynor YCV20WR, but if you pulled a gun and made me choose which one to give you, the Vox would be all yours! Not only does that little Traynor sound fantastic, it is built like a little hummer. (Rivera's are built like tanks!)
 
Yeah, I kinda stumbled upon the Valvetronix series (or at least their non-modeling models that have the Valve Reactor power section) this past December.

I was looking for a little bedroom amp that had more "umph" than my little 15 watt Marshall with an 8" speaker. I tried out the Vox VR30 (30 watts, 10" speaker, channel switching with 2 distortion modes: "vintage" and "modern"). Plugged into one at Guitar Center and really, really dug it. So, when I bought my Telecaster in January, I picked up a VR30 for $177.00 or so.

And the more I played it...the more I wanted one of the bigger Valvetronix models.

I was thinking about the AD50VT, but in March I found a Vox AD60VT (same as the AD60VTX except it has an open-back cabinet and the regular Celestion speaker (not the NeoDog speaker)) with the VC-4 footswitch for $290.00 used. I couldn't pass it up.

For the money, they're hard to beat. And they certainly sound better than any Line 6 I've played through.

There's a lot of love for these Vox's in this thread in The Fender Forum (my screenname there is hi-watt357).
 
I forgot to mention that I sold my Line6 AX2-212 to get the money to buy the Vox. I found that I ended up always using the same 3 or 4 reliable sounds in the Line 6, and it took me an hour to program a tone on that thing.........I get the same tone only better in 3 minutes on the Vox........ 30 seconds on the Traynor. So I switched..... I definitely love the Vox and the Traynor way more than I ever loved that Line 6.
 
Buck62 said:
I've been singing the praises of the Vox AD50VT I bought awhile ago for a long time now. Of course, I get the "tube purists" who slam my opinion, but those are the die-hards who I know haven't tried the little Vox hybrids. (...don't forget that they have a tube preamp) The tube-purists always seem to base their opinion on Line6 products and other sub-standard amp modelers from the past.

Hey I resemble that remark. :D

I'm a tube purist myself but find modeling useful in the recording environment. And I'll tell you right now some of these "purist's" have been fooled on what they think or don't think is a modeler. I know I have been fooled by it.

I will always use tube amps, and I will always use modelers or solid state amps.
 
The tube is actually in the poweramp section with a solid state preamp section. Thats pretty neat. I sell these amps at work and we can't keep them in. 90% of the amps I own are tube, but I REALLY like these vox amps. They're definitely better than most solid state/hybrid/modellers in the same price range.

Rory
 
These Valvetronix amps are causing way too much buzz on teh internetz. That should not be allowed.
 
Hey Metalhead i would love to hear some recordings of the Vox, the AD50VT is the exact amp i am looking at getting in the coming weeks. I liked it in the store, but would be interested to see how it sounds recorded. I too tried the Line 6 & was quite dissapointed...
 
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