Vocal mike poll

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I voted for nothing!

...because I like my Rode K2 with the 6922 replaced with a Telefunken NOS tube. Very natural sounding, but with a nice warmth on the bottom end - replacement tube cleared up any shrillness in the mic.
 
isn't the cad M177 and M179 the same mic? the only difference is that the 179 can change it's pickup pattern. BTW if you compare the mic, i think the M177 is the cheapest out of the bunch listed.
 
AT4040 works well on guitar cabs as well, a very versatile mic indeed.
 
i'm a completely newby trying to learn, and i think i've read a theory somewhere that essentially all mic can "emulate" each other with EQ, after all each mic has it's own frequency characteristic, and i think we buy them for that. After messing around with my cheapo MXL 990 (very cheap mic), i was able to change it's sound characteristic by a little with plugin such as EQ and tube emulation. I went to soundfront.com and they sell a bunch of mic with clips of testing, and to be honest i can detect differences in them, but they all sound very very similar to each other. So i guess what i'm trying to say is mess around with a mic you have right now, just pick up a condenser ~ 100-200 and mess around with it till you can't do anythign else to it anymore, then buy a new mic.
 
warlock110 said:
i'm a completely newby trying to learn, and i think i've read a theory somewhere that essentially all mic can "emulate" each other with EQ, after all each mic has it's own frequency characteristic, and i think we buy them for that.
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Huh? And chocolate cake can emulate french fries by adding ketchup... :rolleyes:
 
bubbagump said:
Huh? And chocolate cake can emulate french fries by adding ketchup... :rolleyes:
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not to be rude but that's a completely smart ass comparision. Mic (we're talking about condenser) are essentially made using some sort of similar parts, they all have a range of frequency that they respond to, the curve of the frequency is what mostly determine the chracteristic of the mic, and EQ can change how that curve look, what does that tell you?

I'm not saying it can completely sound like the others but to a certain extent it can be modify to have some similarity.

now you're comparing it to frech fries and chocolate cake, what part of french fries does it slightly resemble chocolate cake in terms of material and standard?
 
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now you're comparing it to frech fries and chocolate cake, what part of french fries does it slightly resemble chocolate cake in terms of material and standard?
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How does the analogy work? A mic has a characteristic sound and adding EQ will change that sound... You can't add what isn't there. You can't polish a turd. You can't make something what it isn't. A pinto and a corvette both have spark plugs and fan belts.... they both more or less do the same thing when cruising at 60 mph... but they are fundamentally different no matter how you tweak the engine timing... dig?
 
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bubbagump said:
How does the analogy work? A mic has a characteristic sound and adding EQ will change that sound... You can't add what isn't there. You can't polish a turd. You can't make something what it isn't. A pinto and a corvette both have spark plugs and fan belts.... they both more or less do the same thing when cruising at 60 mph... but they are fundamentally different no matter how you tweak the engine timing... dig?
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as i said before, it's not gonna be exactly the same, but it could sound similar. you're refering to "you can't add what isn't there" well what part of the frequency doesn't the mic pick up? most condenser have pretty good frequency range, the curve might look different, but it's all there, 20-20K it's all there. Granted some mic have their own "characteristics" from the material they're made, but sounding wise most of them does a decent job of having all the frequency.

As an example, antare sells a plug in that suppose to emulate different mic characteristics, it's call Antares Microphone Modeler, what it really does is change the EQ of your recorded track. You can say that i was wrong, but with a company that built plugin like antare that can actually sell, so i can guess they kindda know what they're doing, i would trust them a little and actually check out what they can do.
 
Have you ever used that mic program? WAY overrated! You cannot emulate a Neumann u47, by using a Shure SM57. Granted you can model the curve of the frequency response and allow the mic to vaguely mimic something it isn't. A well trained actor knows how to play a doctor on TV, but would you let him knife on you?
 
weezerman2002 said:
Have you ever used that mic program? WAY overrated! You cannot emulate a Neumann u47, by using a Shure SM57. Granted you can model the curve of the frequency response and allow the mic to vaguely mimic something it isn't. A well trained actor knows how to play a doctor on TV, but would you let him knife on you?
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actually no, i saw it and it looks interesting, what's more is that the company made alot of plugin that people seems to like, however it's too expensive for me to purchase. But if you want to make an SM57 sound like a U47 then u'll have a hard time, a better transfer would be something that a condenser rather than a dynamic mic. I don't think the SM57 even has all the frequency that the U47 has does it? can't recall right now but the spec sheet listed the SM57 not having a very wide range of frequency if i remember correctly.
 
See if I remembered right thats one of the options. You choose the mic you are starting with from a menu, and the mic you are trying to emulate in the other, and wallah you have a numann in your hands for the price of a SM57. Doesn't quite work too well. I hope they continue to refine the program and idea one day who knows maybe I will have a nuemann.
 
2 Dickiefunk: Both NT1 and B1 have quite a lot of heights and a thinner body. I would add to them something different like Oktava MK 319 which is darker mike that will do a good job on vocals. It has a great body (speaking about sound) and needs a little EQ on basses and heights.
I have one MK 319 in my home studio. When compared with much more expensive ADK CE (USD 1600) which is really an excellent mike Oktava had a worse heights - grainy and not so smooth, but otherwise its sound was comparable and mature. I would not sell it.

SM7 that is recommended by others is an excellent choice but you must have enough money.

I do not know personally AT4040 but from what I heard about it I think that it can also do a good job for you.
 
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Add me to the AT4040 list. One of the best bangs for the buck in an inexpensive vocal mic. I also use them for live sound recording.
 
Beyer M88TG is £174 at Thomann, that's within your budget and just as good as the SM7B. They are the same price in the US, but the M88TG is much cheaper than the SM7B in Europe. For the price difference there, it's a no-brainer to get the Beyer.

I just lend mine out to a vocalist whose EV was broken, I told her once she tried it she wouldn't want to give it back. I had to sell it to her :o
 
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