Vocal Mastering or Mixing

[mixsit]

Myself - I think it sounds better when you pan all doubled vocal tracks to the same spot. Other people like to pan them to opposite sides. You hear both ways in commercial mixes all the time.

That's a long way of saying, "It's your choice." Try it each way and see which one you like best. Then go with that.

That there'd be your difference between delay or doubling for 'thickening/'depth vs 'spread for width.

 

[TripleM]

That there'd be your difference between delay or doubling for 'thickening/'depth vs 'spread for width.

You're right. I just don't like a spread out lead vocal. It's especially apparent if you're listening on headphones/earbuds. I just it's just a pet peeve of mine.

 

[mixsit]

Yep. 'A little dab up the center does it

 

[DJ_Skull]

You're right. I just don't like a spread out lead vocal. It's especially apparent if you're listening on headphones/earbuds. I just it's just a pet peeve of mine.

That's why panning left and right is essential...I dnt really like that stuff off panning on just one side...Panning left and right keeps the equivalency of the stereo..

 

[Steenamaroo]

That's why panning left and right is essential...I dnt really like that stuff off panning on just one side...Panning left and right keeps the equivalency of the stereo..

I think he means he doesn't like copies or double takes spread hard left and right.
Some people double track and spread them apart equally; Others double track and keep them close to centre.

In headphones, wide panned double tracking can sound much more extreme than on a hifi or whatever.
It's the same as double tracking heavy rock or metal guitars, except people usually want those to sound very wide.

 

[TripleM]

I think he means he doesn't like copies or double takes spread hard left and right.
Some people double track and spread them apart equally; Others double track and keep them close to centre.

In headphones, wide panned double tracking can sound much more extreme than on a hifi or whatever.
It's the same as double tracking heavy rock or metal guitars, except people usually want those to sound very wide.

What Steen said.

 

[Dirtnaper2323]

...sounds like your asking how to make a vocal sound good. they make a mic with a "don't suck" button on it. engage the button while tracking and you should be fine. they sell it at guitar center.

 

[JimmyS1969]

...sounds like your asking how to make a vocal sound good. they make a mic with a "don't suck" button on it. engage the button while tracking and you should be fine. they sell it at guitar center.

Actually, that is a service I offer. 'MAKE U NOT SUK FOR $25'. lol.

Seriously, there is no right or wrong. Only what works/or don't for you. Sometimes a doubled vocal, panned juxtaposed, is the right thing. Sometimes, not so much. It is up to the one mixing the tune, to make those choices.

Try it. Try something else. Then try it again. Then give up, and try something else........

 

[Jonesey9]

I always spreads out double tracked lead Vox, but no more than about 25% L/R

 

[DJ_Skull]

I think he means he doesn't like copies or double takes spread hard left and right.
Some people double track and spread them apart equally; Others double track and keep them close to centre.

In headphones, wide panned double tracking can sound much more extreme than on a hifi or whatever.
It's the same as double tracking heavy rock or metal guitars, except people usually want those to sound very wide.

Well like Jimmy said: there is no right or wrong..If Panning a 100% left and right sounds good then y not?...But take care that's a tutorial for dumb...Just some Kind of stuff..to get an apprentice lost..Right Jimmy?....^^

 

[DJ_Skull]

...sounds like your asking how to make a vocal sound good. they make a mic with a "don't suck" button on it. engage the button while tracking and you should be fine. they sell it at guitar center.

Can you really do with a dry vocal?..I mean without using effects..Man try and make some sense..

 

[TripleM]

Well like Jimmy said: there is no right or wrong..If Panning a 100% left and right sounds good then y not?...But take care that's a tutorial for dumb...Just some Kind of stuff..to get an apprentice lost..Right Jimmy?....^^

I agree - there's no right or wrong. I was talking only about my personal preference. You hear commercial mixes all the time that have a doubled/delayed vocal panned hard to each side. So clearly there are people who like it. It's just that, to me, especially on earbuds, it's distracting.

 

[Steenamaroo]

Well like Jimmy said: there is no right or wrong..If Panning a 100% left and right sounds good then y not?...But take care that's a tutorial for dumb...Just some Kind of stuff..to get an apprentice lost..Right Jimmy?....^^

I think you missed the point.
Triple M said he "doesn't like spread out vocal", and you said, "Yup, that's why left and right is essential"

I think you're talking about the same thing.

 

[DJ_Skull]

I think you missed the point.
Triple M said he "doesn't like spread out vocal", and you said, "Yup, that's why left and right is essential"

I think you're talking about the same thing.

Yeah maybe....Eummmmm someone tell me something?....Is that parallel Compression stuff not some kind off = vocal doubling?...

 

[Rod Norman]

I will not beat you up right now, but your question shows why someone cannot buy their way into a good sound. A lot of you are buying equipment and programs and have no idea what you are doing. So pay attention. Here is the list to a good sounding vocal:

1- A good voice (that may mean a unique sounding voice but one that can stay on pitch.
2- A good mic placed around until the vocal sounds good on playback.
3- A quality preamp.
4- Good, flat frequency response speakers so you can "hear" the sound accurately.
5- Now add just a little reverb, cathedral or church is good, to smooth the sense of space.
6- Now mix in the instruments so they don't obscure the vocal.

Got it? Good. Good luck,
Rod Norman

I Wanna Know the Effects needed by a RAW vocal to make it sound good to the listeners..

 

[Auralsects]

If, you don't feel like talking, just do a search, there are several topics about that signature big rap vocal.

 

[DJ_Skull]

I will not beat you up right now, but your question shows why someone cannot buy their way into a good sound. A lot of you are buying equipment and programs and have no idea what you are doing. So pay attention. Here is the list to a good sounding vocal:

1- A good voice (that may mean a unique sounding voice but one that can stay on pitch.
2- A good mic placed around until the vocal sounds good on playback.
3- A quality preamp.
4- Good, flat frequency response speakers so you can "hear" the sound accurately.
5- Now add just a little reverb, cathedral or church is good, to smooth the sense of space.
6- Now mix in the instruments so they don't obscure the vocal.

Got it? Good. Good luck,
Rod Norman

Well the effects you add...depends on what the vocal needs (what you hear.)...there's no specific way to master a vocal but the main effects necessary in vocal mastering is EQ..AND Compression...then the rest follows...Reverb, desortion, auto tune or what eva u wanna use....depending on how u want ya vocal to sound like...

 

[ShofB]

All that is kinda freeky...All usually mean none....and more to that wtf using effects u dont even know their uses?... -_-"...Let's Just Say I'm use to: using a compresor and EQ Wif a lil bit of delay and Reverb...But after applying all that..I still find the vocals very Dumy...Especially the chorus part....I read an article too...About Natural vocal...doubling...i.e recording the verse or part two times to bring out more presence in the mix..But really did'nt understood..As doing that route the vocal out of it natural sound..Please some one help...Ideas are just mix up in ma head...

That's actually;y pretty simple. It's usually the low-mid-highs that are causing the problem.

 

[Massive Master]

Well the effects you add...depends on what the vocal needs (what you hear.)...there's no specific way to master a vocal but the main effects necessary in vocal mastering is EQ..AND Compression...then the rest follows...Reverb, desortion, auto tune or what eva u wanna use....depending on how u want ya vocal to sound like...

Again - You mean vocal MIXING.

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