Vocal Comping

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As an aside, I don't physically edit my vocals (or, indeed, most tracks). I line them up and use volume envelopes to do my own quick cross fades. In the long run I find this quicker and also easier to change my mind if I want to.

(Obviously that's where I have multiple full takes--punch ins are a form of edit.)
 
1 I do what the singer wants. Some like to do it in chunks (e.g. verses and choruses). Others like to do the whole thing. Sometimes I will suggest that they do it in chunks if they are struggling with the whole thing.

2 I aim to get something good in the first two or three takes (and often the first is best). If it hasn't happened by then, there's little point in continuing. You can end up with either lifeless performances, or diminishing returns (one problem fixed, but a new one emerging).

3 I'm more interested in the energy of a performance rather than its technical accuracy.

4 I record with nothing in the signal path (no EQ, no reverb, no compression etc). Sometimes, though, I have fed reverb back to the vocalist if they insist. I don't like doing this because it can make them sing flat. Loud bass can affect their pitching as well.

5 DC offset and zero crossings: I don't worry about.

6 I don't sweat too much on 'mistakes'. In most cases, these exist only in the eye of the performer. The listener would not realise that it was a mistake. However, I don't mind dropping in on sections where something bad has happened, but there is little to be gained by redoing the whole thing.
 
I just prefer the neatness of making the cuts, doing the comps...and then getting rid of all the extraneous tracks.
I've seen some guy's DAW screens, and there's stuff all over the place...bits-n-pieces...dozens of extra tracks just for a few seconds of actual audio...etc...etc. :D
I like to bring it down to the bare minimum when I'm ready to mix...plus, I come out and mix OTB, so I can't go over 24 OTB tracks, since that's all the D/A I have.

Still...it's all virtual editing, so my raw tracks are never harmed.
 
As an aside, I don't physically edit my vocals (or, indeed, most tracks). I line them up and use volume envelopes to do my own quick cross fades.

I have to admit, until the final mix down I tend to do exactly the same. I create a send track with all the effects and adjust the volume envelope there. However, I must be a little OCD, 'cause I can't leave it messy like that. Always like to tidy up as soon as I can, so then I comp the tracks together.
 
No right or wrong way--but my personal OCD is more likely to manifest itself by sending me back to re-mix something years later so I prefer to leave all the source material completely intact. Having multiple vocal takes doesn't bother me--I can close or minimise the ones I'm not using and tend to use colour coding to separate vocals, different instruments, etc. With that and buses to group all the vocals to appear on one fader at mix time, it's not a problem for me.

Perhaps it's because I grew up with multitrack tape where you couldn't actually SEE your tracks on a screen!
 
My 2 cents...
fight for performance consistency.
If the singers moves away or on the side form the mic... sound will change... comping will get obvious... sounds like patchwork.
 
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