v67 and v67g

[Marik]

No matter how little something may seem by itself... in the end, it's all the little things added together that makes the big difference.

1% humidity change or 1/16" difference in micing position in this case will make much more difference. But if you believe that Mogami wiring makes a difference, by all means go for it.... or even better, get a better microphone

I don't think that it's a very big stretch to claim that the mongami cabling is a benefit. Think about it. How much energy is present in the ac signal going from the capsule to the microphones circuitry ? It's a very very very small signal. Much more prone to loss than a signal that is anywhere near line level.

Firby,

When we are talking about interconnect cables there are all other things to consider and deal with--capacitance, inductance, resistance, etc. Could you in more or less scientific way explain me please, how wiring with 1"-2" long Mogami would preserve energy in the AC signal from the capsule, and would be benefitial here, why small signals need that "special wire" treatment, and most of all--WHAT IS SOOOOO SPECIAL ABOUT MOGAMI???
BTW, the signal from the capsule is not that small, as you might think. In fact, it is pretty healthy.

 

[mattamatta]

Once I got an infection in my belly button from swimming in mission beach.

 

[paddyponchero]

WHAT IS SOOOOO SPECIAL ABOUT MOGAMI???

Its a division of marshall electronics - and since they own it, its probably the cheapest source of cable, also by printing "wired with mogami" they get free advertising, improved brand recognition for their other product and also imply something abouts its quality.

 

[XLR]

Its a division of marshall electronics - and since they own it, its probably the cheapest source of cable, also by printing "wired with mogami" they get free advertising, improved brand recognition for their other product and also imply something abouts its quality.

Good point. Seems like much of users' perception relating to inexpensive gear is formed by slick marketing communications rather than listening. That's one of the things I really like about audio manufacturers like Great River, FMR, Josephson, Schoeps, etc.. They don't do fake marketing. Just great products and a no BS representation of them.

Tim

 

[PhilGood]

Mogami is reputedly good cable, unless it IS just marketing hype. When I used to wire video editing systems, most clients requested it for the audio path over Canare. It ranges from very low-oxygen to oxygen-free for the more expensive gold line. Is this all BS that lower oxygen provides lower noise and a more neutral sound? Not that a couple of inches is a big hoo-ha! BTW, Marshall didn't invent it, they just bought the company.

Also, when I took apart my old mics, the Mogami cable was only from the head amp to the XLR, not from the capsule. (as far as I could tell, it was no different from other Shanghai capsules) Wouldn't the wire from the capsule be the most important since it's before the signal is amplified?

 

[DJL]

No matter how little something may seem by itself... in the end, it's all the little things added together that makes the big difference.

1% humidity change or 1/16" difference in micing position in this case will make much more difference. But if you believe that Mogami wiring makes a difference, by all means go for it.... or even better, get a better microphone

I was speaking in general terms... however, this falls within the same category... and I do know using better cable makes a difference.

 

[paddyponchero]

I was speaking in general terms... however, this falls within the same category... and I do know using better cable makes a difference.

I have no doubt that it makes a difference I just have a doubt about the magnitude of the difference. We are probably talking about something well below 100dB of normal signal levels.

 

[Innovations]

Mogami is good cable, but was the earlier cable crap? Was it really better?

The 'wired with mogami' is what is called cross-marketing. It improves the impression that the mic is better (because it uses mogami) and tha mogami is better (or why would they make such a point of mentioning it). None of that is evil, just marketing.

 

[XLR]

Not evil, just marketing?

NOT EVIL!!????

Man, don't you read Dilbert?

Tim
(Who's wife is in marketing)

 

[DJL]

I have no doubt that it makes a difference I just have a doubt about the magnitude of the difference. We are probably talking about something well below 100dB of normal signal levels.

I agree... I have no doubt about it either... which brings us back to my original statement "No matter how little something may seem by itself... in the end, it's all the little things added together that makes the big difference."