Used Tube amps?

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Hi all

a few threads ago I read someone who told not to buy used tube amps. Why, and what is it you gotta look out for when you do it anyway?

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Brett
 
I bought alot of used tube amps and and have never gotten ripped off. Of course you dont know the age of the tubes and how much use is on them but replacing tubes is awful easy.
 
IMHO With old tube gear it's the capaciators that need replacing not so much the tubes.

cheers
John
 
buying a used tube amp is a lot easier than buying a used car...you turn it on, plug in a guitar, and spend a half an hour playing through it...if it's noisey, it probably only needs new caps like John said...find that local guy who eats, breathes, and dreams tubes...have him install new caps and pay a little more for some balanced/matched tubes...he'll adjust the bias, check for good grounds and shielding and it'll sound great...one last thing--put an eye-ball on the speakers to check for wear, water damage, etc.
 
Yes, used tubes are good.
I have two 100 watt'er tubes, and one small 30 watt Marshall solidstate.
 
If it sounds good, its probably fine. Many older tube amps play fine after 40 years without any maintenance; they are a testament to simple sturdy construction. Old tube amps can almost always be repaired easily (although not inexpensively if its a transformer). Generally they need to have their electrolytic power supply capacitors replaced, and require a re-bias on the power tubes. Old tubes are often fine and really do not REQUIRE replacing - however many prefer to install fresh ones. If they sound good, they are good. Speakers are the other main concern. These can and do wear out, tear, go open, and fry rarely.

Again if the amp sounds good when turned up, then you have a winner. If not, it can probably be repaired. Hell if you have some patience, some experience with a soldering iron, are willing to learn, then you can even repair them yourself. Replacement parts abound.

Look at local pawn shops, smaller music stores, classified advertisement newspapers and you will get the best deals. Ebay is cool, but be careful about price/value. I would try to stick to names like Fender, Gibson, Supro, Ampeg because they are known to be good quality.

From my perspective I have had worse reliability issues with solid state amps. These can be much harder to repair. Any new SS amp are loaded with IC's, and printed circuits which are a headache to say the least.

Good luck!
 
I recently helped a friend move house..my 4WD was the only way too get all his stuff up the mountain.

After shifting box after box after box I asked him what was in them all

VALVES he said!!

He has heaps and heaps of them so if you need a strange old valve check with me and I'll see if he's got it.

cheers
John
 
Yea I have heaps of new old 'valves' too but most are for antique radios and TV's. I have got my fair share of freebees that are good for guitar - how about a pair of Mullard EL34's for free - not bad in an old 50w Marshall!
 
Oh my god, if you're going to get a tube amp, a used one is better IMO. Circuit-boarded new amps just do not sound the same, whether they incorporate tubes or not.

A great amp is a great amp, but I'm referring to the new $500-range combos made by Vox, Marshall, or Fender... they sound awful.

Buy vintage, and get a good amp man to restore it. You'll get a better tone, and you might even spend less.
 
I shopped for and bought two amps last spring. Aquired both on Ebay. A marshall 602 (my first all-tube amp) and a vs265 (tube pre, ss power). I guess if the tubes go out I just have to look at it as normal maintenance for this type of equipment.
The only thing I would be leery of in a used amp is speakers.
What's more expensive..good tubes or good speakers?

Has anybody successfully sued for replacement tubes in a used amp? :D
 
Well a pair of Mullard EL34's would certainly pay for a few Celestion speakers!

Some old tubes (old RCA's, Genelex, Mullard, GE) unused are worth quite a bit when compared to speakers. Hell even a pair of decent 6L6's will run you more than a new Jensen P12R.

Its nice to buy a vintage amp cheap to find out it still has the original RCA or stock tubes, and THAT STILL TEST WELL for transconductance!

Your tubes are likely to last a LONG time (if you dont leave your amp running continuously).

I agree with Eurythmic, a lot of the new tube combos are junky, and an older amp is likely to be much heartier.
 
Old tube amps are the way to go. Hell, I've never bought a NEW one.
 
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