upgrade to punkrock guitar quality

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can i attain fender sound quality by just replacing the pickup on my yamaha guitar into a fender pickup? or do i need to replace more? i hope you wont tell me to buy a new fender guitar, i cant afford it.

or maybe pickup doesnt matter and it all relies on the effect guitar processor and cab?

currently i have a cheap yamaha guitar rgs121 and a boss gt-3 processor using a virtual cab in my computer (NI guitar Rig)

I want to have a punkrock kind of guitar tracks (Blink182, SugarCult)

So do i replace pickup or my processor?

thnaks ohh sorry, thanks!
 
jerberson12 said:
can i attain fender sound quality by just replacing the pickup on my yamaha guitar into a fender pickup?
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No. There's a reason why people pay much, much more for that "Fender quality sound."

Swapping pickups wont do it for you right off the bat. You could put the world's best pickup into a shoebox and it will still sound like crap. It's a combination of the pickup, the woods used, the strings, the cab, the amp, the player, everything.

Go buy a solid state amp with a cheapo distortion pedal if you want quick and cheap results. And crappy results. Or save your money, keep playing, and buy a quality rig in the future that you'll be happy with. Trust me, in the long run you save money and your sanity.
 
Androo said:
No. There's a reason why people pay much, much more for that "Fender quality sound."

Swapping pickups wont do it for you right off the bat. You could put the world's best pickup into a shoebox and it will still sound like crap. It's a combination of the pickup, the woods used, the strings, the cab, the amp, the player, everything.
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but lets not get overboard here in terms of Fender Quality either ... a strat is a wooden plank and a "regular quality" neck attached to it by means of 4 screws ... ther is really NOTHEN on a strat that commands HIGH quality ... the wood is industry standard, so is the neck, ditto the electronics and the paint aint nothing from out of this world either...

not knocking a strat, but "Quality of raw-materials" and "craftsmanship" were never a KEY points . As a matter of fact, one of the mayor design parameters of the strat was that it could be reproduced "industrially" with ease and low cost - kindalike the beatle.

95% of the huge success of a strat is good marketing (kindalike the beatle)
 
but unlike the beetle, the strat is atleast a good design and is comfortable. A good design will somewhat make up for lack of high quality materials.
now feel free to argue with me on this, but I've found that guitars like Gibsons are made with better quality wood and components, but they're not necessarily designed all that well with things other than just the sound in mind, where newer guitars are designed to be easier to play and to stay in tune better. how that relates to what the thread is about, I have no idea, I just thought I'd share that.
 
jerberson12 said:
upgrade to punkrock guitar quality
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I think that's a bit of an oxymoron. Punk was never about quality as much as it was about pure emotion. Go back and listen to some Minor Threat, Black Flag, or Sham 69...Definitely not the best quality instruments or recordings.

You could theoretically pull off a pseudo-blink / sugarcult sound with your 'crappy' yamaha. I've seen both bands live - there's nothing special there. In fact, I was really disappointed with blink. Mark & Tom sounded like they were each playing different songs at the same time. Luckily, the drummer held his own. Sugarcult was decent - but I was bummed they sounded like the album...with a dirtier vocal sound. I could've listened to them at home and saved some cash.

Sorry...I got off on a little tangent there. My point was this - make do with what you have until you can buy a better guitar.
 
Well if you compare a Mexican Strat to a Yamaha entry level guitar, there will be worlds of difference. Electronic components set aside, just remove the neck from the body and look at the unfinished wood. Chances are your Yamaha, or any other budget guitar for that matter, is composed of multiple layers of pressed crappy wood, where at least your Mexi Strat is a solid body. That alone is a tremendous difference.

Check out www.guitargeek.com and look up some of your favorite bands/guitarists, and look at their rigs. That'll give you a good idea of how much money you'll have to spend to sound like them.

Honestly, the only advice I can give you is to truly save up your money, refrain from buying budget gear, and get what you want the first time and hopefully the last time.
 
jeberson,

I disagree with these guys on just about everything here.

Changing the pickup on a cheap guitar will change the sound. period.

Do I think you should do it? probably not.

Your yahama is not a bad guitar. I have owned worse. and much better.

you do not need a nice guitar to play punk rock.

you will, however, need an amp, if you ever want to play in a band.

but I think you are asking about recording.

the sound you are getting should be fine. what don't you like about it? have you toyed with all of the different options already available to you?

if you have a mic and a preamp into your computer already (is that what you are using to record?), I would recommend buying an amp. since you dont have much cash, I would go with the reaaally small park practice amp. parks are made by marshall.

but again, what are you recording exactly? what don't you like about the sound you are getting?
 
FALKEN said:
jeberson,

I disagree with these guys on just about everything here.

Changing the pickup on a cheap guitar will change the sound. period.

Do I think you should do it? probably not.

Your yahama is not a bad guitar. I have owned worse. and much better.

you do not need a nice guitar to play punk rock.

you will, however, need an amp, if you ever want to play in a band.

but I think you are asking about recording.

the sound you are getting should be fine. what don't you like about it? have you toyed with all of the different options already available to you?

if you have a mic and a preamp into your computer already (is that what you are using to record?), I would recommend buying an amp. since you dont have much cash, I would go with the reaaally small park practice amp. parks are made by marshall.

but again, what are you recording exactly? what don't you like about the sound you are getting?
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hi guys thanks for the advice

I'' start sharing what did for the past days.
Ive been recording since last week so that I can practice mixing a punk rock like music. i was trying to imitate the kind of mix that sugarcult had, but i cant because i dont know, maybe my guitar, my effect gig, cab or my mixing ability. I had a lot of doing experiments in my mix to get the sound i like (grungy, punchy distortion) and i hope ill know this to avoid buying another pocket bankruptcy gig.

I just finish my practiced music today
And good news, its just my mixing ability and my virtual amp/cab software. I switch from a crappy NI guitar Rig to very cool Amplitube that just arrived this morning from ebay.com(i got it cheap :D). I dont need to buy a new pickup or whatever so called solid bodied git. So i have the link below with my short practiced music. I still used my Yamaha RGS121 , BOSS GT-3 Effect PRocessor directly to my compputer using Amplitube Virtual CAB and AMP. I hope you like the mix.


COPY AND PASTE LINK, CLICKING DIRECTLY SOMETIMES DOES NOT WORK, YAHOO BRIEFCASE SUCKS
http://f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/benison_jerberson
click public folder
click poprock

i would like you to ask if hows my distortion on my mix sounds, is it fender or gibson like quality? can you really tell if it came from a cheap yamaha guitar?
if yes, you guys are right, il start saving money for a fenda, if not, thank me, sell your gibby, fenda git plus your marshall amp, gain profit and buy a squier rat and virtual cab software and have a fender like mix.

thanks for the advice hope you like the mix :o
 
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Punk rock guitar

Go to a Pawn shop and buy an old guitar that feels right . Put a decent pickup in it and only use a volume knob like I do. Thats a punk rock guitar.
OH, the knob on my guitar goes to 11 :)
 
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