zip
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Bookmarked that one.... 
Now...if I save 2 bucks a day.............
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Now...if I save 2 bucks a day.............
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trebles
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Tubedude Re: the RNC compressor AND SPECK asc eq is it better to buy these in pairs or would you just buy them in single units this is where i get a little confused with gear i mean im not really sure if i need the dual unit or just the one in both compressor and eq
so you know what im dealing with it would be 4 to 5 piece rock and pop bands i guess im asking because as i put all my outboard stuff together id like to know i have enough of everything for the job anyway i hope someone can answer this for me
Wayne
so you know what im dealing with it would be 4 to 5 piece rock and pop bands i guess im asking because as i put all my outboard stuff together id like to know i have enough of everything for the job anyway i hope someone can answer this for me
Wayne
tubedude
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scuse me...scuse me, pardon me... front of the line please... scuse me...
scuse me...scuse me, pardon me... front of the line please... scuse me...
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A little update... Been doing my usual intense preamp hunting and shootout... If you are looking for a really nice "step-up" preamp at under $250 a channel, and could use 4 preamps, check into the Sytek. Its sounds really clean and clear, and alot of good engineers are calling it the Great Rivers little brother. Burr Brown option is free on the new ones. Someone on here bought one awhile back, but I can't rem who. If you're reading this, how do you like it so far?
A little update... Been doing my usual intense preamp hunting and shootout... If you are looking for a really nice "step-up" preamp at under $250 a channel, and could use 4 preamps, check into the Sytek. Its sounds really clean and clear, and alot of good engineers are calling it the Great Rivers little brother. Burr Brown option is free on the new ones. Someone on here bought one awhile back, but I can't rem who. If you're reading this, how do you like it so far?
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Jerry Kahn
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Awesome thread, Tube.
I have managed to do, to an extent, what you and other members of this board have suggested. I have been patient (ugg), and I now have a nice pre (Vintech), a nice reverb (PCM 91), and a good mic (tlm103). I am still futzing over what recording setup to get, and I appreciate your suggestion to wait for something better, if possible. That money thing is such a pain in the arse!
That brings me to my question. A while ago I picked up an Aphex Compellor 320, used, for $500. Having mixed feelings about it, I am now in the midst of selling it for $300-400. Tell me, how does the RNC stack up to this, and will that compliment my other gear? Am I stupid and should I cancel the Aphex sale? And finally: should I just start doing more drugs?
thx -- jk
I have managed to do, to an extent, what you and other members of this board have suggested. I have been patient (ugg), and I now have a nice pre (Vintech), a nice reverb (PCM 91), and a good mic (tlm103). I am still futzing over what recording setup to get, and I appreciate your suggestion to wait for something better, if possible. That money thing is such a pain in the arse!
That brings me to my question. A while ago I picked up an Aphex Compellor 320, used, for $500. Having mixed feelings about it, I am now in the midst of selling it for $300-400. Tell me, how does the RNC stack up to this, and will that compliment my other gear? Am I stupid and should I cancel the Aphex sale? And finally: should I just start doing more drugs?
thx -- jk
tubedude
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Do more drugs, without a doubt.
I;d think about getting a nice clean pre to go with you Vintech, but don't overspend. A grace 101 would be nice. Maybe A sytek if you need extra pres for drums.
How do you like it? Can you tell the difference? Thick huh? Try it as a bass DI, too.
The RNC is excellent for what it is, never heard a bad thing about it, and Atlas has 2 of them in the RNC Chevy frame for $400.
How is the 103 through the Vintech? Some people dont seem to like it on vocals much, but its all subjective.
NIce verb... I'm jealous.
I;d think about getting a nice clean pre to go with you Vintech, but don't overspend. A grace 101 would be nice. Maybe A sytek if you need extra pres for drums.
How do you like it? Can you tell the difference? Thick huh? Try it as a bass DI, too.
The RNC is excellent for what it is, never heard a bad thing about it, and Atlas has 2 of them in the RNC Chevy frame for $400.
How is the 103 through the Vintech? Some people dont seem to like it on vocals much, but its all subjective.
NIce verb... I'm jealous.
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Jerry Kahn
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Vintech/103 sounds great to me, but I don't know shubop.
tubedude
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Doh!
badgas
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Glad you brought it up, tube.
Some very good info here.
Some very good info here.
BrettB
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thx for the info Tubedude
Personally purchasing stuff is killing me. Being still a student my budget is really thight and when I finally get a bit of money chosing between material is such a pain in the ass. After the holidays now, I have a bit of money and I'm doubting wheter I should buy the used Fender Hotrod Deluxe an old guitar teacher of mine sells, or a digital Pre-amp like the POD or the V-Amp.
Practically The POD would be the best solution. I have a PC with recording facilities, so I can record direct in, so the loads of demo's I make for my new band get on much quicker. Also the amp I have right now (Fender Solid Stae) isn't in the same house of where my comp is (I live in 2 different cities because of my studies) so I dan't use the line out anyway.
But you didnt calculate the sick brains of a musician. Because I fell in love with that stupid Hotrod deluxe
Somethimes you know you should better buy something else, but some material just asks to be bought
Personally purchasing stuff is killing me. Being still a student my budget is really thight and when I finally get a bit of money chosing between material is such a pain in the ass. After the holidays now, I have a bit of money and I'm doubting wheter I should buy the used Fender Hotrod Deluxe an old guitar teacher of mine sells, or a digital Pre-amp like the POD or the V-Amp.
Practically The POD would be the best solution. I have a PC with recording facilities, so I can record direct in, so the loads of demo's I make for my new band get on much quicker. Also the amp I have right now (Fender Solid Stae) isn't in the same house of where my comp is (I live in 2 different cities because of my studies) so I dan't use the line out anyway.
But you didnt calculate the sick brains of a musician. Because I fell in love with that stupid Hotrod deluxe
Somethimes you know you should better buy something else, but some material just asks to be bought
J
jojojeronimo
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Tubedude,
I agree with whoever's sentiment regarding professional studio time v. a lifelong pursuit of acquring ones personal professional studio, and no doubt going about it, financially, all the wrong way.
But when you say you're chasing 'that phat sound', - by which I know what you mean, of course! - do you mean by means of only audio stuff (which can probably be the phatest sonically only within a pro studio), or relying on synthy sort of sounds?
Synthesizer/good midi sounds are surely what makes current radio music sound so deep and phat, no matter what style of music. It doesn't have to cross that distance between instrumental vibration and recorder. I can imagine how the pursuit of recording gear to even try and equal the original instrumental performance must be a holy grail, an obsession, a bugbear!
That's how I assume it all stands anway, which is why now, in my early days (in experience and on a payroll), I am steering clear of even bothering with vocal recording, since you cant even try doing that synthetically (obviously), but to start meeting vocal output with recording equipment within my current financial reach sounds like a cycle of distress and expense.
If I fall into a million dollars, *thats* when I get my own professional studio!
(mind you, sounds like i might not get much change froma million from what ive read on this thread - ouch)
I agree with whoever's sentiment regarding professional studio time v. a lifelong pursuit of acquring ones personal professional studio, and no doubt going about it, financially, all the wrong way.
But when you say you're chasing 'that phat sound', - by which I know what you mean, of course! - do you mean by means of only audio stuff (which can probably be the phatest sonically only within a pro studio), or relying on synthy sort of sounds?
Synthesizer/good midi sounds are surely what makes current radio music sound so deep and phat, no matter what style of music. It doesn't have to cross that distance between instrumental vibration and recorder. I can imagine how the pursuit of recording gear to even try and equal the original instrumental performance must be a holy grail, an obsession, a bugbear!
That's how I assume it all stands anway, which is why now, in my early days (in experience and on a payroll), I am steering clear of even bothering with vocal recording, since you cant even try doing that synthetically (obviously), but to start meeting vocal output with recording equipment within my current financial reach sounds like a cycle of distress and expense.
If I fall into a million dollars, *thats* when I get my own professional studio!
(mind you, sounds like i might not get much change froma million from what ive read on this thread - ouch)
tubedude
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Synths are but a tool, and I rarely use them... would use them more if there wasnt other stuff I need worse, but... I dunno... you can make mega fat recordings without them, but they do have thier place sometimes, just not all the time, unless thats just your thing, which is cool, too.
What did I just say? I dunno...
What did I just say? I dunno...
zip
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Huh??
"I am steering clear of even bothering with vocal recording, since you cant even try doing that synthetically (obviously), but to start meeting vocal output with recording equipment within my current financial reach sounds like a cycle of distress and expense."
Why do you say that? With a good voice and respectable mics and pres' you can get a very good sound. One doesn't need a million dollars to do it.
Sonusman posted some MP3's of a push recording he did with a $99 Art mic pre. The vocals sounded great and were hardly recorded with a million in stuff. If I'm not mistaken he used a $400 AT 4033 mic...
I add that up to be about $500.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point??
"I am steering clear of even bothering with vocal recording, since you cant even try doing that synthetically (obviously), but to start meeting vocal output with recording equipment within my current financial reach sounds like a cycle of distress and expense."
Why do you say that? With a good voice and respectable mics and pres' you can get a very good sound. One doesn't need a million dollars to do it.
Sonusman posted some MP3's of a push recording he did with a $99 Art mic pre. The vocals sounded great and were hardly recorded with a million in stuff. If I'm not mistaken he used a $400 AT 4033 mic...
I add that up to be about $500.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point??
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jojojeronimo
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Zip -
No, dont worry - i am just an idiot newbie
I only really posted that cause it was the only opinion i had from what i know of it all - which is nothing - and as i expected i got some good rebuke to educate me.
I had the impression good, clear, noiseless vocals required incredibly expensive mics and some sort of vault-like chamber. (hmm, a padded cell perhaps, for all us frustrated musicians)
No, dont worry - i am just an idiot newbie
I only really posted that cause it was the only opinion i had from what i know of it all - which is nothing - and as i expected i got some good rebuke to educate me.
I had the impression good, clear, noiseless vocals required incredibly expensive mics and some sort of vault-like chamber. (hmm, a padded cell perhaps, for all us frustrated musicians)