Trying to sound as pro as possible

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I am one for metal.
This is something i actually enjoyed listening to.. i mean, most home recordings, of metal bands, trying to get somehwere, i hear it and just turn it off cause it sounds retarded, but, you got the kick click right up there, the guitars are nice and sit under the vocals, the vocals are great...

i myself, would even exaggerate the kick a bit more in the top end..

but man. thumbs up. you did something that sounds like most things i listen to.... if your familiar, ..i would say thats a better recording than lamb of gods first and...oh dare i say this. second cd?

take care.
 
If I might add? What equipment are you using? I'm curious to know how you achieved this feat. My own stuff pales in comparison (because I don't have gear).
 
Yup, good shit man! I only listened to the first song, but I thought it's really clear. I'm listening on Alesis M1 actives, not the best speakers but but at least they're not computer speakers :)

Probably an artifact of the mp3, but the 2-5 khz range sounds a bit over-limited to me, starting to distort a bit?

Are the drums real? Good job either way.

Personally I'd add some low end but I feel that way about a lot of metal these days...it kind of needs to have less bass to keep the tightness.

KEep rockin
Rick
Sittin' Idol
http://www.sittinidol.com
 
One thing I noticed is the kick is missing the low-end presence that helps support the entire song on all tracks. The Bass Guitar tracks are fighting for the same road as the kick.

After listening again, I would almost bet money these are V-drum???? Nobody hits a snare like this normally. Unless your engineer fixed everything hit and every track. And I doubt it since you mixed and mastered in two days.
But hey what the hell V-Drums do metal fast and painless.

If the vocal tracks are going to have that bigger than life sound, then don't just add a few effects and call it a day.
Stereo mic screamer boy with a tube mic and LDC anything.
Pan hard L/R
Then run those tracks into a harmonizer tuned 1 oct down.
Set it back in the mix and hold on the something tight.

For what it's worth...you're very close.

C
 
Wow guys. I'm pretty flattered, thanks. About the equipment, I can't believe you guys mentioned Mesa Boogie, I mean, I really like the guitar sound but I didn't ever thought it could sound near a Mesa Boogie, anyway, here's my humble gear list for these samples:

Guitars: Behringer V-Amp Pro
Vocals: Shure 55h (Elvis style - this was the vocalist's own mic, it's not a studio mic but we intended to use it anyway)
Bass: Behringer V-Amp Pro
Interface: Delta 1010
Mixing desk/ built-in pres: Behringer 1204Fx Pro (!)
Software: Cubase Sx2
Pluggins used: Waves (Rcomp, Rbass, L2, C4), Blue Tubes (Stereo Imager), Tc Native Works (Tc reverb), and a few more.

About the drums we recorded everything on a Td-10 from Roland (V-drums) but then I replaced the sounds with the "Drumkit From Hell" samples. I made sure I used my own equalization and compression so they wouldn't sound a copy of Meshuggah's drumsound. So the V-drums were merely a controler for this samples.

Nowadays I don't use the 1204 Mixing desk anymore, since I bought one Mackie Hui with 2 built-in high quality pres. If you guys wonder how did I get this sound quality with this shitty behringer gear, I do wonder the same and the answer might be in the fact that I like to explore a lot on the post-production stage. I may get a shitty recording sound in the first stage, but then I foccus my all efforts on making it sound as near professional as possible to my ears. I do mix with headphones. I'm planning to buy a cool studio monitors but so far I've been mixing a lot with headphones. As far as the pros opinions go, this is an error. So don't do like me! :P I also bought one Studio Projects T3 (tube mic) recently.

Anyway, thanks alot, I was already satisfied with the final result, but now I'm more than proud. I know it could be better in a lot of ways, but this was my third experience as a producer, so guys, if you have bands and you want me to produce your band, I can do it for a cool low price since I don't have a big investment on my hands (and above all, I'm a sexy latino guy!).
 
Impresed with the guitars for virtual amp. Is this the way recording is going. Sampling everything and forgetting about amps? It seems like the lazy way out of alot of problems, but then again if you end up with results like this then it is worth thinking about.
 
Well, you have a point there, but I have huge space/ acoustic limitations. I'm working at home, this is my homestudio and although I share my appartment with no-one, I still have neighbours that might dislike acoustic drums pounding in the 4th floor. I had this homestudio facilities for my own productions as a musician, but I've been involved with some projects that grew kinda big in my country and relatively known in europe, more in the metal scene, and bands started inviting me to produce their albuns.

Anyway, honestly, do you think you could get the same results with an all analogue recording (no v-drums, no v-amps, no digital pluggin stuff) in one weekend + 2 days of mixing/master in a 4 days total? I doubt it. Honestly.
 
sounds good!!!! lots of clarity in the guitar s and vocal, hell everything!

just a little more bass and overall bottem end.
 
coolness

Hey man, cool job... I see where you are going for the drum sounds... It's almost an And Justice For All sound from Metallica on the drum parts, which is a true compliment because I have DKFH too and haven't really done any triggering as far as live playing (I mainly use BFD)... I use my fingers to drum, but it's important to not have that kick to boomy when you have the double kick rolling on. I liked the guitar sounds on that Beringer though, the rhythm guitar is chug death heaven! The only thing was the lead that came in was a bit of the same frequency so it was harder to differentiate the exact solo, but it sounds nice and polished as a song. I do listen to this type of music and I am a big fan of Mike Patton's work with Fantomas and Dillinger Escape Plan, so I always have somewhere to draw familiarity on production. Lest we forget, I grew as a guitarist playing along to the greats (Sepultura, Slayer, Overkill, Biohazard, etc...) I'm no pro yet, but I know what I like, so take it as you may! ;)

It's all great music though, keep up the great work...
 
Meshuggah... drool!

Aside from this, I'd have to say I hold the same thoughts as Chuckie in believing that most new music I hear just doesn't hit that something special or whatever, but I think you might have it. Great job.
 
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