Thrill is gone Colab

[Gorty]

This is where I disagree.

I like the differences in attack and volume within True's vocal.

I have just listened to the track a couple of more times and the differences in the attack is a great thing, but that is not what I am trying to pinpoint in my constuctive criticism.
Upon my re-listen it definitely sounds like True is moving away from the microphone in a few sections. This isn't a vocal attack issue, it is clearly a volume fluctuation of the vocals. You can have the light and shade and encapture the attack of the vocals but IMHO the vocal level (db's) needs to be constant in the tracking and then tweaked in the mixing stages etc if so desired.

I do agree that volume changes can draw the listener in, however there is sections where the the attack and intensity is constant yet the volume fluctuates due to movement away from the microphone, no ifs or butts about it!

If you are going to use volume swells and volume differentiates they need to be grouped so you have the quieter vocals in the quieter (is that a real word??) pieces of the vocal lines and not halfway through an emotive/attacking phrase as such.

This is just my opinion and this is not aimed in any way or form to detract from the fact that Trues vocals are nothing short of amazing and totally unique. I have collabbed with True before and the emotion she brought out of me with her vocal delivery in my guitar playing is something that I will not forget in a hurry!

Gorty

 

[60's guy]

I have just listened to the track a couple of more times and the differences in the attack is a great thing, but that is not what I am trying to pinpoint in my constuctive criticism.
Upon my re-listen it definitely sounds like True is moving away from the microphone in a few sections. This isn't a vocal attack issue, it is clearly a volume fluctuation of the vocals. You can have the light and shade and encapture the attack of the vocals but IMHO the vocal level (db's) needs to be constant in the tracking and then tweaked in the mixing stages etc if so desired.

I do agree that volume changes can draw the listener in, however there is sections where the the attack and intensity is constant yet the volume fluctuates due to movement away from the microphone, no ifs or butts about it!

If you are going to use volume swells and volume differentiates they need to be grouped so you have the quieter vocals in the quieter (is that a real word??) pieces of the vocal lines and not halfway through an emotive/attacking phrase as such.

This is just my opinion and this is not aimed in any way or form to detract from the fact that Trues vocals are nothing short of amazing and totally unique. I have collabbed with True before and the emotion she brought out of me with her vocal delivery in my guitar playing is something that I will not forget in a hurry!

Gorty

Points taken....and I agree that True's vox are amazing, and from where I sit....that's all that matters. We can discuss dynamics and mixing issues to the extent that we all read like that Ford guy. I'll take a pass on that if it's all the same..............

 

[Gorty]

Points taken....and I agree that True's vox are amazing, and from where I sit....that's all that matters. We can discuss dynamics and mixing issues to the extent that we all read like that Ford guy. I'll take a pass on that if it's all the same..............

Hey 60's guy,

Did I ever tell you that I think True's vocals are amazing from where I sit as well!

 

[true-eurt]

NO COMMENT~!!!








*as tr00 quietly peeks from behind her twenty foot mic....*






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[60's guy]

Hey 60's guy,

Did I ever tell you that I think True's vocals are amazing from where I sit as well!

No, you haven't.

BTW, have I told you lately that you need to get your lazy ass out of the swimming pool and go record a guitar track to Rock Bass?

 

[true-eurt]

No, you haven't.

BTW, have I told you lately that you need to get your lazy ass out of the swimming pool and go record a guitar track to Rock Bass?

Scooose me...I have to comment here. I am the guilty one here.

Have I told you guys thank you, for caring enough to comment on my big mouth, no matter what your difference of opinions are?!!!



And hey, EL...you rock on the axe dood!!!

 

[Gorty]

No, you haven't.

BTW, have I told you lately that you need to get your lazy ass out of the swimming pool and go record a guitar track to Rock Bass?

Yes you have!!

I'm waiting for True to lay some vocal tracks so I have my boundaries to work within!..

 

[true-eurt]

Yes you have!!

I'm waiting for True to lay some vocal tracks so I have my boundaries to work within!..

This could get reeeeeeeeeeel scarey !!!

 

[60's guy]

Yes you have!!

I'm waiting for True to lay some vocal tracks so I have my boundaries to work within!..

WHAT??????????

Guitar players NEVER wait for lyrics!

 

[Gorty]

WHAT??????????

Guitar players NEVER wait for lyrics!

This one does!

 

[EL34]

Been away and busy last couple days, I see lots of comments.

The vocal dynamics were way more pronounced before I mixed the raw track.

I added a compressor and a limiter to True vocal tracks to even out the range a bit.

I also had to raise the volume levels on small sections of the track because the vocals fadded so bad into the background in certain sections.

It's pretty much what it is at this point and I'm done for now.
Got more irons in the fire than I can attend to at the moment.

Thanks for the Comments Gorty and everyone else.

 

[true-eurt]

I would like to say, that I like both mixes.

 

[Gorty]

I also had to raise the volume levels on small sections of the track because the vocals fadded so bad into the background in certain sections.
Thanks for the Comments Gorty and everyone else.

You and True are most Welkom!..