Those Creed Vocals

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Man o' man, who knows how to get this effect? Hate the band but how do they get that vocal sound? First of all, I know they're using the best of the best equipment but there's got to be a way to get somewhat close. I can't tell if the vox is doubled or slap back echo or chorused or .....what. Any ideas?
 
Joe, dreadfully sorry to NOT answer your question specifically, but may I request (firmly tounge in cheek of course) that you reword your question? Namely, "How does Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam get that awesome vocal sound and how did Scott Stapp copy it so well?"

(Nof offence intended but yes, Eddie gets a great sound and Scott has definitely perfected the copy process down pat).
 
ok,

which song are you talking about?

I have "with arms wide open" and that must be one of the worst vocals on the pro circuit.

The highs are harsh and unsmooth.
 
Creed blows ass. I don't care how good you think it sounds. I'm never this harsh...but `damn'.
 
Well, like I said, I don't like the band. I just found the vocal processing intreging. I feel the more you know the more you can do and this is something that I didn't know how to achieve. Damn, I guess I'm not the only one who doesn't like these guys! But man, they sure sell alot of records just by writing that same song over and over.
 
Did any of you know that creed did "My own Prison" CD in a house they were renting in Fla. and on a rented 8 track recorder.

Those guys were homereccers too. and I think they got exceptional results for being just kids. If you met them you would think that they were stand up dudes. I had the pleasure to be the first guy to ever get thier autogragh, (at least thats what they told me) at our local rock station KQRC 98.9 the rock.

These dudes Inspire me, and someday I would hope to have the same kind of success that they have and rightly deserve.

Wayne
 
Personally, I like Creed. I think the vocals sound similar to Pearl Jam, but so what. I dont think he copied the sound on purpose, I just think thats how he sounds. I never understood why so many people bash Creed, I think they rock.
 
my own prison was not done with 8 tracks
Of this we can be sure..... maybe their demo for it was, but the album recording definitely was not.
 
and it wasn't done in a house either.

it *was* done for about 6,000 dollars, by a then no-name engineer/producer at a little local studio.

they also had a no name manager...

toured on the album, put it out themselves..no one would pick it up, eventually the upstart wind up records decided to take a chance on them, they were going to be the labels only act.

my own prison sold a lot of copies....and the rest is history.

watch behind the music bizz0ys :)

moral of the story is: just becuase your first album was pretty good, doesn't mean you are not one of the most suck ass bands to ever grace the "rock" scene and inspire hundreds of other ass clowns to start bands just like yours. (nickelback, default, puddle of crudd). scott stapp can eat his own ass.

-Wes :)
 
A lot of his vocal technique involves proper use of body positioning. It's important that you put your arms straight out to help break up any ambient reflections that might clutter the vocal. This 'Christ' pose is also handy for fooling Christians who otherwise wouldnt buy the album from somebody who obviously sold their sole to the devil. How else would you explain their success?
 
TexRoadkill said:
How else would you explain their success?
Um, a lot of us liked thier music, and bought thier CD? Maybe that could explain thier success as well.
 
wes480 said:
and it wasn't done in a house either.

it *was* done for about 6,000 dollars, by a then no-name engineer/producer at a little local studio.

they also had a no name manager...

toured on the album, put it out themselves..no one would pick it up, eventually the upstart wind up records decided to take a chance on them, they were going to be the labels only act.

my own prison sold a lot of copies....and the rest is history.

watch behind the music bizz0ys :)

moral of the story is: just becuase your first album was pretty good, doesn't mean you are not one of the most suck ass bands to ever grace the "rock" scene and inspire hundreds of other ass clowns to start bands just like yours. (nickelback, default, puddle of crudd). scott stapp can eat his own ass.

-Wes :)

Exactly.

bdgr, eddie vedder doesnt naturally sound like eddie vedder. He developed a vocal style that *was* distinct and interesting 10 years ago. Along with STP and AIC. It ceased to be distinct and interesting after 1994. Creed came around in 1998 I believe. If you think scott sounds like that when he wakes up in the morning I have news for you. Aside from that, there are riffs all over the place that they stole from STP, AIC and just about every other band from that era. (..and they have the temerity to walk around as if they invented rock)

Creed, stained and fuel and all the others will be as remembered in 5 years as LA guns, TNT, nelson, dangerous toys, slaughter, cinderella, trixter, etc are now. Those bands all came 5 years after the fact, as did Creed and Co. Thats the problem with rock. Movements continue 5 years after theyve died (usually 7 years after anything new or creative developed).
 
The local guys from puddle of mudd are also aquantaces, but they sounded like that way before creed came along.
 
For Gods sake, if Kieth hadnt had chuck berry licks to rip off, there would be no stones, and if Zep didnt have Willie Dixon, or Clapton rip off Robert Johnson...Blah blah blah. So what, I like thier music, they arent anything original, but I enjoy listening to them. I dont realy think that they sound that damn much like Pearl Jam anyway. Its obviously an influence, but I just cant see why people think they suck so much.
 
I know exactly how they got the vocal sound...

You need a million dollar studio, a million dollar engineer, a million dollar microphone, and then you have to have no talent at all. :D

I don't like them, but that doesn't mean that nobody else can;)
 
Theres a fine line between calling something an "influence" and stealing somebodys vocal style, writing style and guitar lines note for note. What people find disturbing about creed is the degree of the theft, its not here or there, its everywhere, its the whole sound. Its also their success, its one thing if they were a derivative band that sold 50,000 units or even if they had a big national following and never made it to mainstream radio...but that aint the case. I dont hear chuck berry in the stones, I dont here willie dixon in led zepplin. I do hear the obvious bands in creed. I think in recent years the boldness of the ripping off and the shamelessness in many bands' lack of originality has gone to a new level.
 
JuSumPilgrim said:
I dont hear chuck berry in the stones, I dont here willie dixon in led zepplin. I do hear the obvious bands in creed. I think in recent years the boldness of the ripping off and the shamelessness in many bands' lack of originality has gone to a new level.

Kieth Richards said he stole every riff he played from Chuck. Zep stole whole songs, from Dixon and tried to call them thier own(and got the shit sued out of them as well). Creed maybe sounds similar...somtimes....
 
It was on behind the Music that I foundout how the recording was done. So By the way How many tracks does it take to record that record. They used 3 on the drums. 2 on vocals, and 1 each on guitar bass. Eight covered that.
 
TexRoadkill said:
A lot of his vocal technique involves proper use of body positioning. It's important that you put your arms straight out to help break up any ambient reflections that might clutter the vocal. This 'Christ' pose is also handy for fooling Christians who otherwise wouldnt buy the album from somebody who obviously sold their sole to the devil. How else would you explain their success?

:D :D :D
ROFL!!!!

Pete
 
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