the ultimate professional hip-hop studio

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CyanJaguar said:

1.What does HT mean?

2. Also, we were looking at the Argosy consoles you mentioned and they look really good. Much better and much more functional than the Omnirax furniture.

3. Finally, Since computing power is an expense, One does not need to have the latest. You can save money by going with a dual pentium as you mentioned as it will have to be upgraded soon anyway.

4. I think we'll go with the dual 19 inch crts and save about 600, which can be used for something more important like cables.

1. Hyper-Threading. It basically enables your computer processor to split itself in two (. So if you get dual processors it is the same as getting four.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,570431,00.asp

http://english.aopen.com.tw/tech/techinside/HyperThreading.htm

http://www.digit-life.com/articles/pentium4xeonhyperthreading/

Sonar 3 capitalizes on H/T technology. ;)

2. ;) They have great consoles.

http://www.argosyconsole.com/

3. Correct. ;)

4. Very wise idea. You can get twice as much monitor for the buck.

I was wondering why are you all buying a ProTools system & a PC system?

spin
 
I would just pass on the pro-tools due to price and from what I have read around boards and such. So i would pass for a small set-up. But man I also understand the ability to drop household names to lure in the everyday consumer sooo if I was to open a public studio then I would have to seriously consider a pro-tools rig. Kinda the nature of the beast. Spinster dropped everything I could ever want in a studio. Avalon, Manley, and Pro-tools alone should get you clients by name. My main focus would be sound treatment in the rooms and go one from there.

But for my home set-up I like my little bits and pieces. Kinda like diggin in the crates for records. But your diggin in stores and on-line for equipement. Its what makes me happy these days..Good Luck


Oh and to add to your list above. He would have to factor in rent and bills aswell.
 
the difference between a hip hop studio and a simple recording studio?


Hip hop is a revolutionary form of music making that encompasses everything that is heard, and reworking it to move the crowd, whether it be moving their bodys or their souls. A hip hop studio is a media studio with the ability to sample different forms of media and record them, then tweak them. A hip hop studio uses samples of recordings.

When I was younger I always wanted to record this and that. I wrote a bunch of lyrics to instrumentals off of records, I even made a few in high school on some lame karoake machine. But who the hell had the money per hour to dish out $ to create beats & record in the studio? So I was like f%$# it, I sold my car, and I assembled my own home studio. I figured I could use modules, sample, whatever to get some sounds behind my lyrics. The message to me is more important than the backdrop, but every word deserves cinematic respect, so I studied on how i could best assemble my dissassembled masterpiece.

My grandma always called me hardheaded, which is true.
But if you need music to accompany your words what are you supposed to do? Assemble a band? Fuck them, they don't know me, I'd rather compose a sound set on my mp homie.

a basic recording studio uses conventional methods & settings in recording. They record and enhance sound images. every once in awhile an engineer'll get excited when someone their working with lets them play with reverbs. Electro musicians play all day. Shit, I play all day. And I record that shit. Some of these cats around here don't respect electro musicians. i don't play any damn instruments. their frequencies are too limiting. i play sound. (not saying i wouldn't play an instrument though). when they see me with a $400 program making problems due to my programming, my shit isn't music? its too electronic... well thats the idea..isn't this 2004? catch up ...... Although they are musicians themselves, they believe art comes from dexterity of the hands rather than wrath of the mind?

I'm pro-electro.

tell your friends to widen their stereo image and explore the other frequencies they rarely visit. if anything, just for fun.
 
SPINSTERWUN said:
1. Hyper-Threading. It basically enables your computer processor to split itself in two (. So if you get dual processors it is the same as getting four.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,570431,00.asp

http://english.aopen.com.tw/tech/techinside/HyperThreading.htm

http://www.digit-life.com/articles/pentium4xeonhyperthreading/

Sonar 3 capitalizes on H/T technology. ;)

2. ;) They have great consoles.

http://www.argosyconsole.com/

3. Correct. ;)

4. Very wise idea. You can get twice as much monitor for the buck.

I was wondering why are you all buying a ProTools system & a PC system?

spin


The argosy is nice. He likes the dual 15 with the simple 800 consoles on this page http://www.argosyconsole.com/d15.htm

He'll put the speakers on stands behind the console and get a rack for more spaces.

this
http://www.digidesign.com/news/credits/
is the reason he is going pro tools. If you mean why is he going protools on pc and not mac, then it is because it is much cheaper to build and upgrade a pc than a mac and like 95% of other pc users, he has never used a mac.

Thanks for the info on hyperthreading technology. Question. At the prices of ram today, why only 1 gig. I would think that 4-6 gigs would make things run MUCH smoother.
 
CyanJaguar said:
..... why only 1 gig. I would think that 4-6 gigs would make things run MUCH smoother.....

I meant at least 1 gig of RAM. ;)

BY all means, if he can afford 8 gig's of RAM, then get it. :cool:

Peace...

spin
 
CyanJaguar said:
......this
http://www.digidesign.com/news/credits/
is the reason he is going pro tools. If you mean why is he going protools on pc and not mac, then it is because it is much cheaper to build and upgrade a pc than a mac and like 95% of other pc users, he has never used a mac......

Ooooooh. :eek: I thought that he was going to get a MAC ProTools setup AND a regular PC setup. :p

Sorry about that, I misunderstood you. ;)

Peace...

spinster one
 
Call me stupid, but...

DISCLAIMER: I don't know shit, don't do shit, don't want shit, and ain't about shit, so listen to me if you want, but don't blame me if my input sinks your battleship...

...if I only had 30-35 grand to spend on building a room (or two?) to work in, I would not drop loot on an Argosy desk.

"http://www.digidesign.com/news/credits/
is the reason he is going pro tools. If you mean why is he going protools on pc and not mac, then it is because it is much cheaper to build and upgrade a pc than a mac and like 95% of other pc users, he has never used a mac."

get your friend outta the hooker's pussy if he can't stand the deep...

Besides, I thought PT was hella dependent on it's own cards more than the actual CPU. Maybe I'm wrong, the only "PT" I know intimately is Pam Thomas, and ya'll cain't feel me on that broad, no how...

On your budget, I'd be most definately checking out other scenarios that'd serve my needs without planning to spend down to the last available penny in my universe. Especially if I couldn't afford what I was looking at.


If dude is gonna use pro tools, then why does it matter which platform he uses? He'll be spending damn near all of his time within the software, anyway. Besides, some pretty nice 'verbs & shit that ain't (yet?) available for windows machines...

Oh yeah, and all that money for gear, and only a yard for treating the room? And, you may have to do construction and shit, too? Hmmm... I spent a grand damn near in supplies - wood, drywall, nails & (special?) screws, RC, and so on to build my old studio in the back of my store (not counting a whole host of other shit needed to complete construction, like the few specialty goodies that make building a room work, he used rubber mounts to mount the channel strips, for example) - but I'm no genius (or even novice) at that kind of shit, my ex-bird's ol' man hooked me up like whoa. Maybe you don't need that shit, I dunno, but maybe you should holla at the cats in the studio building forum (or whatever it's called - after you read alot there), w/out knowing what you working with (or how to do it), how can you make a legitimate guess at anything? How much ya'll gotta actually build? How much can you do to the room you renting? Does it not matter about adjoining rooms or businesses or bedrooms or whatever?

Plucking gear, like pussy, is the easy part.
Having the right kind of space to tap dat ass is a whole 'notha story, I think.

THIS IS THE PART YOU CAN HOLD MY FEET TO THE FIRE ON...

All that loot
+
All that shit on your list
=
1 triton le
1 roland xv5050
0 Akai MPC (of any flavor)
0 Turntables

So much for the ultimate hip-hop studio.

Hmmm...
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I thought...

...you had a market nailed, and a way to make them believe ya'll had the illest room for beatjunkies, DJs, and MCs. To me, it doesn't really look that way now. Without the specialized equipment & blunt guts everywhere, I'd have NO WAY of seeing or knowing your room was made just for a fool just like me... I can't tell you what to buy, but I'd slow my roll and seriously think about what I wanted to accomplish, with whom, and in what amount of time before I even began beating the drum about gear, etc...

Gotta man up before you can put a suit on, ya know? A soft dick don't stab...

see, by your own efforts, ain't no diff (thus far) between a "hip-hop" studio, and any other recording studio.


THE ONLY THING YOU CAN BLAME ON ME IS IF THE RECORD SKIPS...



djfd
 
Re: Call me stupid, but...

Flo' Dolo said:
[All that loot
+
All that shit on your list
=
1 triton le
1 roland xv5050
0 Akai MPC (of any flavor)
0 Turntables

So much for the ultimate hip-hop studio.

Hmmm...
-------------------------------------


I thought...

...you had a market nailed,

djfd

Even the most expensive studio in the world did not start with all the gear they have now.

Besides, he does have a market nailed, and they dont use turntables. Peace
 
Fair enough.

I just thought you meant something other than what you did.

Even so, gotta have them wheels...


All day.


djfd
 
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