The RNC of AD/DA Converters!

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Holy Shit!
I had no idea this was going on.
This BBS,
http://www.harmonicdiscord.com/forums/viewforum.php?forum=32&207
is just for the ART DI/O AD/DA converter.
It is a group of audiophiles who are dumping their $2000 DACs and using slightly modified ART DI/Os!
They say the ART is one of the best they ever heard.
The winner of "Best of Show" system at AES used a modified ART!
This site details the modifications with pics and parts lists.
http://www.interlog.com/~cfraser/DIO.htm
This is a full blown audio craze, similar to the "best bang for the buck" type stuff that we saw with the C1 and the RNC.
If you don't want to do the mods yourself, the moderator of that BBS sells them modified for ~ 400.00!
www.fullcompass.com sells them stock for $122.00!
Mine, (stock) is on the way.
I'm pumped!
I ordered the upgraded power supply from Allied Electronics, and I'll see how it sounds from there, as to whether I'll do the other mods.
Anybody looking for QUALITY A/D or D/A conversion on the cheap might want to check this out.
I am not affiliated with ART or any of these people, just trying to pass on a bargain to a BBS that has helped me very much.
Thanx,
Carmen

:)
 
id wait for a little while before buying into the hype, chances are in a year they'll be a dud like the rodent nt1. In my humble opinion Lucid converters are the rnc of ad/da conversion.
 
id wait for a little while before buying into the hype, chances are in a year they'll be a dud like the rodent nt1
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Yup
 
How many forums did you crosspost this in? That's pretty lame. Anyway, I responded to your *identical* post in the microphones forum. Please learn the rules and use them next time.
 
That's one of those sites that is also a hangout of the folks who believe that they can hear their power cords, I notice. Some clever marketer has found out that you can sell people very expensive "high tech" power cords, and convice them that everything will sound all better as a result- the posts are really quite funny.

But not nearly as funny as the posts where the Audiophile Wizard Poster sets up his DI/O on internal clock at 88.2 kHz, and uses it to convert the async sample stream from his CD player at 44.1khz. And claims that it sounds *much better* than converting at 44.1 with external sync, except for that periodic popping you get from the mismatched clock sources...

"Better except for the popping"? These people really are hearing the voices of the angels, I think. This is simply a fad (or maybe mass hysteria), like the green marker on the edge making your CDs sound better. I've heard the DI/O, and it sounded very comparable to my Midiman Flying Cow- and nothing like a really *good*, high end studio converter...

These guys are all wowed that this is "studio equipment". It's just your average sound-card-equivalent, for crying out loud....

Oh, well. I'm glad that I'm so old and deaf that I can't hear that magic mass-hysteria stuff. I'd hate to have to worry about it.
 
Well.....

Scriabin said:
id wait for a little while before buying into the hype, chances are in a year they'll be a dud like the rodent nt1. In my humble opinion Lucid converters are the rnc of ad/da conversion.
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It wasn't a Lucid that was used on the AES "Best of Show" system, it was a DI/O.
If I try the DI/O and it isn't what they say, I'm out $150 with the new power supplies.
If Lucid isn't what you say,
I'm out ~$750.00!
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Any body seen my green majic marker? It was here a minute ago.....
 
Wow...

I guess no good deed goes unpunished....
:rolleyes:
C

PS
Got my DI/O today.
It's everything they said it was.
$119.00 at AMS.
 
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CarmenC said:


It wasn't a Lucid that was used on the AES "Best of Show" system, it was a DI/O.
If I try the DI/O and it isn't what they say, I'm out $150 with the new power supplies.
If Lucid isn't what you say,
I'm out ~$750.00!
C
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you must understand our skepticism when a miracle product comes out with a extremely low price. junk such as the nt1 left a sour taste in alot of our mouths. if in fact in a year it still is retaining is value and sounds great, well then i might buy into the hype. you misunderstood my original post... i wasnt biting your head off:)

lets us know the results, im interested to hear them!
 
cyan,

I cant get your files to play, it looks like nowhereradio is in the process of being updated..... anyone else having trouble?
 
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Scriabin said:


you must understand our skepticism when a miracle product comes out with a extremely low price. junk such as the nt1 left a sour taste in alot of our mouths. if in fact in a year it still is retaining is value and sounds great, well then i might buy into the hype. you misunderstood my original post... i wasnt biting your head off:)

lets us know the results, im interested to hear them!
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The DI/O has been out since '99.
They go up in value once the mods are done, as you can see on that board.
All the mods are (as far as I can tell) are upgrades to cheap components in the power supply section, or changing jacks to better interface with consumer pre-amps. A lot of people just upgrade the power supply (higher current output wall wart).
Tha BBS I linked above has been modding them since August of last year.

Perhaps the NT-1 was the best deal at the time.
How did the MT-1 (which I don't own), become junk?
Because something else comes along that's better for the money, doesn't mean the NT-1 wasn't a good deal at the time. Is the NT-1 suddenly a bad mic, or did something better in that price range come along?
The state of the art is a moving target.

I was just trying to pass on info that other people said was an amazing deal,
and in fact, is.
I recieved my DI/O today and LOVE it!
And I haven't even tried it as a DAC.
I'm running the analog outs of a Yamaha MD8 to it and the digital out of the DI/O to my DAT.
The A/D is MUCH better than my old DA-30.
I got my money's worth already, before I even try the DAC as used on the other BBS.
And this a stock unit, no mods.
$119.99 from AMS. I ordered it yesterday.
Got it today. COOL!
I do have the beefier power supply coming, though.
I was just hoping to pass on a good deal.
I wasn't trying to convince people to do anything.
I thought the people on the other BBS might do that.
They convinced me.
Many people were skeptical of the RNC, as well.
I have 3.
LOVE them.
I found a whole BBS that was CONVINCED about the DI/O for the last 6 months.
Thought you guys might be interested, that's all.
I'm very pleased.
The first ART product I ever liked.
Just trying to help...
Peace,
Carmen
:)
 
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CarmenC said:
The A/D is MUCH better than my old DA-30.
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The converters in the DA-30 are the stuff of Behringer legend. Ask Harvey G. about that, IIRC, he uses a Lucid w/ his DA-30.

It shouldn't be any surprise that a more recent, dedicated converter would sound better, just as a result of the chips used.

IMHO, a lot of the high-end audiophile stuff is 90% marketing, so should it be any surprise that a $120 box does just as well? Certainly the components themselves are dirt cheap.

In any case, why would you trust a forum dedicated to a company that sells a modified version of the item in question at a high markup, along with replacement power supplies and cables? Doesn't that raise any doubt about a vested interest in promoting this product?
 
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