The New Tone Thread

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Yep, pretty good tones there, especially the rhythm guitar. I was looking for some thickness in the lead tone with more of a cutting edge, too - the tone was a little middly and one-dimensional for me. like it was both high-passed and low-passed. The rhythm tone kicked butt, though. :)
Cheers mate. The lead and rhythm tone are actually the same. I might chuck the OCD on to totally drench the lead before I re-track that solo and write the second one.
 
Okay Boob, and anyone else that might be interested, here's another Jimi run with the Plexi DIMED! Every knob on 10. I personally don't think it's very good, but wtf do I know? It's pretty gnarly. I do know this, I think I might have just caused a small earthquake in Katy, Tx.

So it's two clips. The first one is just the high input channel, volume 1. The second clip is both channels jumpered and dimed.

Fender Strat
Marshall Plexi Super Lead 100w
All tone controls on 10
Vol 1 high input only on 10
Marshall 1960A 4x12 - Celestion Greenbacks
SM57 on axis, on grill, halfway to edge.
No EQ or FX in DAW

High Input only - vol 10

And here's everything dimed.
Channels jumped - both volumes dimed

I don't know how "Jimi" any of this crap is, but it sure sounds pretty wicked to me.
 
Okay Boob, and anyone else that might be interested, here's another Jimi run with the Plexi DIMED! Every knob on 10. I personally don't think it's very good, but wtf do I know? It's pretty gnarly. I do know this, I think I might have just caused a small earthquake in Katy, Tx.

So it's two clips. The first one is just the high input channel, volume 1. The second clip is both channels jumpered and dimed.

Fender Strat
Marshall Plexi Super Lead 100w
All tone controls on 10
Vol 1 high input only on 10
Marshall 1960A 4x12 - Celestion Greenbacks
SM57 on axis, on grill, halfway to edge.
No EQ or FX in DAW

High Input only - vol 10

And here's everything dimed.
Channels jumped - both volumes dimed

I don't know how "Jimi" any of this crap is, but it sure sounds pretty wicked to me.
First one- very, very extreme tonally, but some of those high chords sounded excellent in that you could hear every note contributing to the chord. I bet it would sound kick-ass in the context of a mix as a supplementary guitar part. :D

Second one, what can I say? Sounds wicked. I can imagine it up front in a mix, no problem.
 
Cheers mate. The lead and rhythm tone are actually the same. I might chuck the OCD on to totally drench the lead before I re-track that solo and write the second one.

Right. :D Horses for courses, then! Style-wise, I kind of expected a bit more Fast Eddie finger vibrato from a self-confessed metalhead like yourself. :D
 
First one- very, very extreme tonally, but some of those high chords sounded excellent in that you could hear every note contributing to the chord. I bet it would sound kick-ass in the context of a mix as a supplementary guitar part. :D

Second one, what can I say? Sounds wicked. I can imagine it up front in a mix, no problem.

Hey thanks. I kind of like the vol 1 only clip. Sounds pretty cool. The both volumes dimed clip is just too much for me. It might record better though with the mic backed off the cab a bit.
 
Okay Boob, and anyone else that might be interested, here's another Jimi run with the Plexi DIMED! .
hahahaha! That's it ...... that's the sound.

yes, it's true that sound wouldn't really fit into any of our mixes .... but Jimi was mostly playing in trios so he wanted as much fill as he could get.

Those two clips, especially the second one, are just so fat they're filling up every part of the guitar EQ spectrum .... with the compression at that point the chords just go on almost like a keyboard ..... very nice!

I like the first clip best ...... it's the most Jimi-sounding to me and really, pretty damned close.

:D
 
Haha, okay then, thanks Boob. So now I've got Jimi all figured out and never have to think about it again. :D

Well, there is one more I gotta do. Something with wah. I guess that voodoo chile powder intro thing will do.
 
and he worked the volume of his guitar a LOT so that's where he would suddenly have clean sounds .... no channel switching for him.

I've never been much of a volume control user but I understand the older Marshalls clean up very well if you roll back the guitar volume.
 
and he worked the volume of his guitar a LOT so that's where he would suddenly have clean sounds .... no channel switching for him.

I've never been much of a volume control user but I understand the older Marshalls clean up very well if you roll back the guitar volume.

I've become a big fan of twiddling the guitar vol now that I've got amps and pickups that respond appropriately. It's great.

I did notice when doing these dimed clips that just rolling the volume off the strat would go from raging insanity to clean and chimy real easily - even with the amp set to self destruct.
 
Okay Boob, and anyone else that might be interested, here's another Jimi run with the Plexi DIMED! Every knob on 10. I personally don't think it's very good, but wtf do I know? It's pretty gnarly. I do know this, I think I might have just caused a small earthquake in Katy, Tx.

So it's two clips. The first one is just the high input channel, volume 1. The second clip is both channels jumpered and dimed.

Fender Strat
Marshall Plexi Super Lead 100w
All tone controls on 10
Vol 1 high input only on 10
Marshall 1960A 4x12 - Celestion Greenbacks
SM57 on axis, on grill, halfway to edge.
No EQ or FX in DAW

High Input only - vol 10

And here's everything dimed.
Channels jumped - both volumes dimed

I don't know how "Jimi" any of this crap is, but it sure sounds pretty wicked to me.
Fuckin'ell mate, if God existed he'd have been drowned out by that last clip.

I'm quite pissed up, but those super loud clips were great. Very very hendrix. Do some more of it.
 
Right. :D Horses for courses, then! Style-wise, I kind of expected a bit more Fast Eddie finger vibrato from a self-confessed metalhead like yourself. :D
Haha, I'm not a even a metalhead. It's strange, I like to listen to punk and grunge but my own music is always more towards metal. Guess I've just got to live with it.
 
Okay Boob, and anyone else that might be interested, here's another Jimi run with the Plexi DIMED! Every knob on 10. I personally don't think it's very good, but wtf do I know? It's pretty gnarly. I do know this, I think I might have just caused a small earthquake in Katy, Tx.

So it's two clips. The first one is just the high input channel, volume 1. The second clip is both channels jumpered and dimed.

Fender Strat
Marshall Plexi Super Lead 100w
All tone controls on 10
Vol 1 high input only on 10
Marshall 1960A 4x12 - Celestion Greenbacks
SM57 on axis, on grill, halfway to edge.
No EQ or FX in DAW

High Input only - vol 10

And here's everything dimed.
Channels jumped - both volumes dimed

I don't know how "Jimi" any of this crap is, but it sure sounds pretty wicked to me.

Great tones Greg, I'm impressed dude....You could probably get a good gate (if you don't have one) to cure the noise dude...I'm gonna download these & put them in the "keeper" folder for reference....
 
Okay Boob, and anyone else that might be interested, here's another Jimi run with the Plexi DIMED! Every knob on 10. I personally don't think it's very good, but wtf do I know? It's pretty gnarly. I do know this, I think I might have just caused a small earthquake in Katy, Tx.

So it's two clips. The first one is just the high input channel, volume 1. The second clip is both channels jumpered and dimed.

Fender Strat
Marshall Plexi Super Lead 100w
All tone controls on 10
Vol 1 high input only on 10
Marshall 1960A 4x12 - Celestion Greenbacks
SM57 on axis, on grill, halfway to edge.
No EQ or FX in DAW

High Input only - vol 10

And here's everything dimed.
Channels jumped - both volumes dimed

I don't know how "Jimi" any of this crap is, but it sure sounds pretty wicked to me.

Clip 1 tone is just awesome. That damn single coil 60-cycle hum would be a problem if you were try to use it for a recording. Maybe trying a few different spots to stand to minimize interference. Makes you appreciate what humbuckers do! I think it sounds freaking fantastic though. The crunch, the EQ balance, everything.

Clip 2 is definitely thicker, and I like it a lot as well. It actually does sound very Hendrix to me. Not quite as spanky and punchy as clip 1. It's even got that insane dissonance when the bent notes beat against the steady notes. Not just the normal beating that you'd hear, but its like something inside the amp doing something that it was never designed to do, and doing it well. It sounds like an old Marshall in pain, and I like it.
 
OK, tonight I changed approaches altogether. Maybe that last song isn't really suited to the 2204 (although I'm gonna keep trying on that). That riff that I posted was a forgotten song off of an album that I recorded while I had the DSL40C, and I was hoping that the 2204 could do a similar job. One way or another, that song will be recorded with this amp. It just doesn't excel at the same things. That'll be interesting.

Here's my weak attempt at some Mick Ronson, something a little more suited to the amp. I brightened up the amp settings considerably, and cranked the preamp. No pedals on this one, everything before the amp is bypassed.

Forgive my shitty attempt at drums on this syncopated riff. I had to add some bass in there as well. I know it's kind of against the grain of the tone thread to add drums and bass, but the guitar isn't very exciting on its own. This is about the first minute or so of "Sweet Head", a bonus track on the Ryko release of Ziggy Stardust. My favorite song about blowjobs :)

Gibson LP Classic, bridge pickup
Marshall 2204S
Presence: 5
Bass: 3
Mid: 9
Treble: 9
Master: 6
Pre: 10

 
Fuckin'ell mate, if God existed he'd have been drowned out by that last clip.

I'm quite pissed up, but those super loud clips were great. Very very hendrix. Do some more of it.

Great tones Greg, I'm impressed dude....You could probably get a good gate (if you don't have one) to cure the noise dude...I'm gonna download these & put them in the "keeper" folder for reference....

Clip 1 tone is just awesome. That damn single coil 60-cycle hum would be a problem if you were try to use it for a recording. Maybe trying a few different spots to stand to minimize interference. Makes you appreciate what humbuckers do! I think it sounds freaking fantastic though. The crunch, the EQ balance, everything.

Clip 2 is definitely thicker, and I like it a lot as well. It actually does sound very Hendrix to me. Not quite as spanky and punchy as clip 1. It's even got that insane dissonance when the bent notes beat against the steady notes. Not just the normal beating that you'd hear, but its like something inside the amp doing something that it was never designed to do, and doing it well. It sounds like an old Marshall in pain, and I like it.

Wow, thanks guys. I didn't think that mess would be so well received. Lol. It is noisy as shit for sure. I was literally no more than three feet away from a fully cranked Plexi with a single coil guitar in my hands. I don't have a gate because I never really need one, and I aint gonna buy one for no dumb strat that I never use anyway. Haha. Usually though, with my other single coil guitars, I move until the noise is gone. In this room, it's usually facing the windows away from the computer monitor and TV - which were both on during this clip. I just didn't bother with it this time. Needless to say, the TV's volume being on wasn't an issue. The hum alone was louder than the TV. :laughings:

OK, tonight I changed approaches altogether. Maybe that last song isn't really suited to the 2204 (although I'm gonna keep trying on that). That riff that I posted was a forgotten song off of an album that I recorded while I had the DSL40C, and I was hoping that the 2204 could do a similar job. One way or another, that song will be recorded with this amp. It just doesn't excel at the same things. That'll be interesting.

Here's my weak attempt at some Mick Ronson, something a little more suited to the amp. I brightened up the amp settings considerably, and cranked the preamp. No pedals on this one, everything before the amp is bypassed.

Forgive my shitty attempt at drums on this syncopated riff. I had to add some bass in there as well. I know it's kind of against the grain of the tone thread to add drums and bass, but the guitar isn't very exciting on its own. This is about the first minute or so of "Sweet Head", a bonus track on the Ryko release of Ziggy Stardust. My favorite song about blowjobs :)

Gibson LP Classic, bridge pickup
Marshall 2204S
Presence: 5
Bass: 3
Mid: 9
Treble: 9
Master: 6
Pre: 10


Haha, great song to do, and a nice job playing it.

I think the tone is pretty good, but still a little dark and thick if we're comparing it to the original. But just looking at your settings, even with the bass rolled back, it all adds up. Cranking the preamp gain does fatten the amp up considerably because you're totally bypassing the bright cap. And add all those mids, which overlap with the bass and treble control, it thickens up even more. That Ronson kind of tone would be a good candidate for cranking the master and rolling the gain way back. And use the high input....and a half-cocked wah. :D
 
Wow, thanks guys. I didn't think that mess would be so well received.

I'll listen again now - I was shit-faced when I listened to it last night.

Still sounds good, I'm at work so on shit headphones (I can't wear huge open backed reference headphones at work) but there appears to be a little bit of fizz creeping in to the top of the second clip. Either that or its just the noise still being audible.

Its just nice to have a reference of what a full hammered plexi sounds like.

How did that feel in the room? Did you have ear plugs in?
 
OK, tonight I changed approaches altogether. Maybe that last song isn't really suited to the 2204 (although I'm gonna keep trying on that). That riff that I posted was a forgotten song off of an album that I recorded while I had the DSL40C, and I was hoping that the 2204 could do a similar job. One way or another, that song will be recorded with this amp. It just doesn't excel at the same things. That'll be interesting.

Here's my weak attempt at some Mick Ronson, something a little more suited to the amp. I brightened up the amp settings considerably, and cranked the preamp. No pedals on this one, everything before the amp is bypassed.

Forgive my shitty attempt at drums on this syncopated riff. I had to add some bass in there as well. I know it's kind of against the grain of the tone thread to add drums and bass, but the guitar isn't very exciting on its own. This is about the first minute or so of "Sweet Head", a bonus track on the Ryko release of Ziggy Stardust. My favorite song about blowjobs :)

Gibson LP Classic, bridge pickup
Marshall 2204S
Presence: 5
Bass: 3
Mid: 9
Treble: 9
Master: 6
Pre: 10

Tad, that sounds great to me. Its actually a little annoying - something you've just done as a tone test sounds better than anything I've ever recorded!
 
Its just nice to have a reference of what a full hammered plexi sounds like.
That's everything it's got....with that guitar. Humbuckers naturally push it a little harder.

How did that feel in the room? Did you have ear plugs in?
It was loud as shit. Like pants flapping loud. This was just a 4x12, so I was standing close and above the beams of sound barreling out of the cab, but I could feel it on my legs. I didn't have earplugs, but I was wearing closed iso tracking headphones. The same cans I wear to track drums. They provide about 30db attenuation. They're the difference between my usually clean hearing and having to use sign language.
 
That's everything it's got....with that guitar. Humbuckers naturally push it a little harder.


It was loud as shit. Like pants flapping loud. This was just a 4x12, so I was standing close and above the beams of sound barreling out of the cab, but I could feel it on my legs. I didn't have earplugs, but I was wearing closed iso tracking headphones. The same cans I wear to track drums. They provide about 30db attenuation. They're the difference between my usually clean hearing and having to use sign language.

Cool, I thought you must have some form of ear protection 'cos you have a shit load of loud amps and you've never complained of hearing problems.
Can you post up a link to them - I might get some better headphones for tracking. My ears were ringing after tracking the motorhead cover the other day and it was all done in a few takes.

I've have a couple of other problems with my ears though from surfing.
 
OK, tonight I changed approaches altogether. Maybe that last song isn't really suited to the 2204 (although I'm gonna keep trying on that). That riff that I posted was a forgotten song off of an album that I recorded while I had the DSL40C, and I was hoping that the 2204 could do a similar job. One way or another, that song will be recorded with this amp. It just doesn't excel at the same things. That'll be interesting.

Here's my weak attempt at some Mick Ronson, something a little more suited to the amp. I brightened up the amp settings considerably, and cranked the preamp. No pedals on this one, everything before the amp is bypassed.

Forgive my shitty attempt at drums on this syncopated riff. I had to add some bass in there as well. I know it's kind of against the grain of the tone thread to add drums and bass, but the guitar isn't very exciting on its own. This is about the first minute or so of "Sweet Head", a bonus track on the Ryko release of Ziggy Stardust. My favorite song about blowjobs :)

Gibson LP Classic, bridge pickup
Marshall 2204S
Presence: 5
Bass: 3
Mid: 9
Treble: 9
Master: 6
Pre: 10

sounds great to me too .... very nice .... maybe a bit dark but only a bit .....
 
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